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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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ok my cousin went driving to get some gas in the snow. He got gas then left his hous again about a mile down the road the car just died. We checked the timming got a new starter got a new batery checked all of the grounds. It will not even turn over. It seams like the cranking volts are really low. Maybe a short i don't know please help. It is an 94 integra
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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BASIC TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE

Engine Related Problems

Engine will not rotate when attempting to start

- Battery terminal connections loose or corroded.
- Battery discharged or faulty.
- Automatic Transmission/transaxle not completely engaged in Park mode or Manual Transmission Clutch not completely depressed.
- Broken, loose or disconnected wiring in the starting circuit.
- Starter motor pinion jammed in flywheel ring gear.
- Starter solenoid faulty.
- Starter motor faulty.
- Ignition switch faulty.
- Starter pinion or flywheel teeth worn or broken.

Engine rotates but will not start

- Fuel tank empty.
- Battery discharged.
- Battery terminal connections loose or corroded.
- Leaking fuel injectors, faulty fuel pump, faulty fuel pressure regulator.
- Fuel not reaching the fuel rail.
Ignition components damp or damaged.
- Worn, faulty or incorrectly gapped spark plugs.
- Broken, loose or disconnected wiring in the starting circuit.
- Loose distributor is changing ignition timing.
- Broken, loose or disconnected wires at the ignition coil or faulty coil.

Engine hard to start when cold

- Battery discharged or low.
- Malfunctioning fuel system.
- Injectors leaking.
- Distributor rotor carbon-tracked.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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fuse?
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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BASIC TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE

Engine Related Problems

Engine will not rotate when attempting to start

- Battery terminal connections loose or corroded.
- Battery discharged or faulty.
- Automatic Transmission/transaxle not completely engaged in Park mode or Manual Transmission Clutch not completely depressed.
- Broken, loose or disconnected wiring in the starting circuit.
- Starter motor pinion jammed in flywheel ring gear.
- Starter solenoid faulty.
- Starter motor faulty.
- Ignition switch faulty.
- Starter pinion or flywheel teeth worn or broken.

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If you read my post i said we checked the gronds and battery leads got a new starter and a new battery. maybe ingintion switch. just looking for advise.
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:03 PM
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checked fuses all good
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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anyone else
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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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We'll figure this one out stretch nuts. I just want the fricker to turn over so I can find out if I did any damage to the motor. Looks like I'll be driving the camaro for a while. But any input would help. TIA
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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did you here that he has to drive his camero instead of his pimp tegra. We need help
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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any other ideas. We are baffeled
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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bump
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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OK heres whats going on. Everything seems good. Hit the ignition switch and the only thing thats happening is a clicking sound at the fuse box. I don't know if there is anything under the fuse box or what. I'll obviously be taking that off and checking it out. I'm thinking there may be a wiring issue as well. I haven't had much time to get out and play with it though. When I get the chance I'll bring out the volt meter and check voltage everywhere. Sounds like the solenoid isn't even engaging. So thats what I'll be looking at as well.
We'll keep you guys posted on what we find out. TIA

If it motivates anyone on here to help, I'm stuck in a camaro or a 5.0 mustang AWE!!!!!
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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check the main relay by the fuse box, we had the same problem.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Is it the starter relay? And where does it sit? Under the fuse box? Thanks..
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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Don't have the wiring drawing here, but I thought the starter circuit doesn't have any relay other than the one that's mounted directly on the starter. Are you hearing the main relay?
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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I haven't brought out the volt meter to see where power is at. The only clicking though is happening up by the fuse box, it clicks everytime the key is turned all the way.. Which is telling me that no power is reaching the soleniod. My cousin will pull the fuse box off tonight and see if he can find something. I don't have much time to work on it during the week because of my job. But I'll have time to check it out thoroughly on friday.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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have you thought of the igniter. if your car just died while driving, it may be the igniter/ICM. check that out. good luck.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Won't even turn over. When I figure that part out we'll see if anything else is wrong. So as for right now. No the ICM would seem to be fine.
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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Any other ideas. The starter is fine. We can hot wire it and it turns the engine over just peachy. But that doesn't explain the clicking up at the fuse box(that would ba main fuse box inside the engine compartment). I'm pretty sure there is a bad wire/ground between the starter and the fuse box. Bump for any other ideas. Thanks
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 03:51 AM
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There's not many things in the starter circuit. Get your multi-meter & check the little trigger wire at the starter. It should get battery voltage when the ignition switch is turned to 'start'. Is that the wire you're talking about when you say 'hotwire' the starter?

If you can run the starter by simply giving the trigger wire 12v, that means the high-power cables must be OK.

That little trigger wire must have a fuse somewhere, but I don't know whether it's before or after the ignition switch. (Got a wiring drawing for '94?)

Otherwise, keep looking further 'upstream' in that circuit. Bad ignition switch? Maybe the switch is OK, but the wire supplying battery voltage to the switch is not live?

Get systematic about the checks, right?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks Jim. I'll have time to look at it more thoroughly on friday. Really all I"m doing is looking for some more ideas in case I run out of them. It's appearant that the hot lead to the starter is fine. Hot wire the soleniod and it turns over. I will need a volt meter to see whats going on. I'm leaning toward there is power everywhere but it's grounding out before it gets to the soleniod. I wish I had a wiring diagram for a 94. Then I could make a better plan of attack when I go check it out in a couple of days. I'm sure its something simple and I'll have it fixed this weekend.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Well if anyone cares we figured out the starter issue. It was that loktronics(or whatever its called) starter disable. Had a loose ground. Anyways thats fixed now. So it turns over like a champ. With that being said I could finally run a compression test. Seems as if #3 cylinder is making compression. I wish I could say the same about 1,2, and 4 LOL. So we'll be pulling the head off this weekend and I'm sure we'll notice that the valves have knocked the pistons. Providing thats what happened I'm just stuck wondering if I should just get some new valves. Or should I rebuild the motor since it will be half out anyways. Of course we'll just have to wait and see how much the head costs.
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