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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 06:57 PM
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Well, After looking through the two types of boosts, I have to ask:
Would either swapping out for a B18C Engine, or building up my B18B1 (non V-tec) engine be worth it, instead of a boost kit?

Sorry for asking so many questions, but I'm trying to look at all my options, and while I know how to drive, I'm not 100% knowledgeable when it comes to Turbo vs All motor, etc...
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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If you stick with the B18B go boost, if you go with C1 you can go either way. But really only go all motor with the C1 if you ask me. Both are good for boost though. And you will get way more HP with boost. In the long run if you are looking anything in the 12's or lower your gonna spend the same amount. All motor isnt cheap when you get lower and lower times in the 1/4.
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Yeah, I know an all motor setup is going to be hellishly expensive, but the expenses can be spread out.

And, I'd assume my current mods would be compatable with a B18C engine? (intake and headers)
Also, what kinda conversion kits would I need to swap from a B18B1 to a B18C1?
That, and I've always liked an all motor setup..
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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It'd be LS\Vtec, unless of course you swapped in a whole new motor. LS\Vtec is when you swap a vtec head (B16,B18c,B18c5) onto an LS (B18a/b) block. Now, the block has slightly lower compression (9:1) than your average GSR, but say if you purchased a b16 engine, and used it for parts (eg. Pistons, Head, Tranny, etc...) you could raise compression, have a quicker geared tranny, and have a nicer flowing head. Although, your already non-vtec engine is a prime canidate for boost.. (Mostly because of the compression ) Hope that helps, search more about LS\Vtec
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Okay, is LS/Vtec powerful enough to build up?
or would it be better to purchas ea B18C1 engine? I'm not really liking the idea of boost too much, I'd like to be able to keep it all motor, but still be able to school a, say, V6 mustang (V8 is a pipe dream, I think) on what speed really is..I'm able to drive it, just not sure rather or not I'd be able to make an all motor hit the higher whp numbers.
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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ls vtec will be less reliable than a c1, unless you get it done by someone with experience. personally, i'd go c1, will some agressive cams, 12.5:1 comp pistons and other internals (valvetrain, etc etc) and a good header/catback system, and you'll be able to get v8 stangs all day long (as long as they're stock and you can drive)
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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They're ALL sotck around here. Too many damn rich kids with camaro's and Stands around here, that think they can drive, and well, I took one Stang GT already once, but that was due solely to my driving better (twisty road, he got scared after 60 and held it there)..As for Header/Catback system, I've already got an Apexi Catback Exhaust, and DC sports ceramic lined headers, if thats what you're talking about..
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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My teg wooped on a 68 Mustang... It was a small V8 though (289).. If you know how to drive then power to yah .. Boost will get you to your goals alot faster than all motor, be prepared to start milling that head and PNP.. all sorts of good stuff.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're ALL sotck around here. Too many damn rich kids with camaro's and Stands around here, that think they can drive, and well, I took one Stang GT already once, but that was due solely to my driving better (twisty road, he got scared after 60 and held it there)..As for Header/Catback system, I've already got an Apexi Catback Exhaust, and DC sports ceramic lined headers, if thats what you're talking about..</TD></TR></TABLE>

when i say a good header exhaust... dont get me wrong i have apexi/dc too... i mean a good JDM header with 2.5" collector, and a good exhaust, 2.5" all the way back (t1r etc.)

and honestly a mild internal build on a c1/5 will take stangs all day long.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Believe me, I've got the 2.5" all the way back, made sure of that..

and yeah, boost will get me there quicker, but the one question still isnt answered: can I get an all motor B18C1 to run the same in a quater as I could get a boosted B18B1 running with a street level of boost?
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Believe me, I've got the 2.5" all the way back, made sure of that..

and yeah, boost will get me there quicker, but the one question still isnt answered: can I get an all motor B18C1 to run the same in a quater as I could get a boosted B18B1 running with a street level of boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

street lvl boost, like 7psi? 9psi? what?
by street level if you mean what kits run when you first install them, yes. a built c1 putting out 215 or so hp with some sticky tires will run you some good as times. and it'll be all motor and we all know n/a is best
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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Yeah, 7-9psi area.


One final question though: Is there any reason my current parts wouldnt fit on a B18C1 engine, if they fit on my B1? Just curiously.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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yes they will not fit w/o some custom work. Throttle body is in different location on a C1 and the fittings on the exhaust ports are different too.
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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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ur intake will work, and the header/exhaust system too

why do they sell gsr and ls intakes separate? my ls intake fits like a dream on the gsr manifold and clears everything beautifully.
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