Ground Control Question
Posted above by someone else 400f 300r. They also said that the ride was a little smoother for daily driving with GC's. If you happen to find a good price for them, let me know!
so many different thoughts ? Some ppl are saying that the stiffer the better and some ppl are saying something else? Also if your is dumped you cant get a good ride no matter what set up you have?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes you can buy ERS springs in pairs, I think they are around $100/pair but I'm not sure. I'm also not sure what length of spring you should get, as they come in a wide range of lengths as well as spring rates.
I want stiffer springs so that my car doesn't pitch up and down so bad over dips and stuff, and also so it doesn't bottom out like the rear of my car has been doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cant you stiffen your koni's to prevent this? This is what I do. When I know I am going drive over choppy roads I set the shocks stiffer to prevent the pitching and the bottoming. However harsh bumps send me 1"-2" out of my drivers seat
I want stiffer springs so that my car doesn't pitch up and down so bad over dips and stuff, and also so it doesn't bottom out like the rear of my car has been doing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cant you stiffen your koni's to prevent this? This is what I do. When I know I am going drive over choppy roads I set the shocks stiffer to prevent the pitching and the bottoming. However harsh bumps send me 1"-2" out of my drivers seat
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i'm running the stock gc's, lowered 2-2.5 " all around, illuminas as shocks, and ST swaybars and it's fine, even for auto-x and road racing. I don't get that much dive or roll (mainly sway bars on this one) and it's almost neutral, just a little bit of understeer. It's perfect for street use. It's very comfortable and well damped. I would recommend you get a thicker rear sway bar + the 350/280 gc's with illuminas. Good luck with your decision
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FrostyDC4 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Cant you stiffen your koni's to prevent this? This is what I do. When I know I am going drive over choppy roads I set the shocks stiffer to prevent the pitching and the bottoming. However harsh bumps send me 1"-2" out of my drivers seat
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Koni shocks only adjust the rebound damping. Compression damping remains constant. But damping does not change how much the car bounces.
When you hit a bump or dip, the weight of the car and speed you hit sends a certain amount of force through the suspension to compress it. The spring rate determines how much the suspension compresses, because it takes a certain number of pounds of force to compress the spring 1 inch (lbs per inch spring rate). It doesn't matter if there is a high amount of damping (performance shocks) or a low amount (stock shocks). The damping serves to slow down the compression and rebounding of the springs. A high amount of damping will bring the suspension to a halt quickly. Less damping takes longer to suppress the springs motion.
When you have soft springs and soft damping, the wheels are able to follow the contours of the road while the body of the car remains more stationary, like the car is floating (big Caddy
). There is also a relatively large range of suspension movement.
If you use stiff springs, the body is going to more closely follow the movement of the wheels, so you feel all the bumps. Because the body is moving up and down more, it makes the springs compress and rebound even more over bumpy roads, so the feel of the bumps is kind of amplified if the dampers are not stiff enough to contain the spring's movement (lowering springs on stock shocks).
In my case, I'm running Konis but with relatively soft H&R Sport springs. The springs lowered my car more than they should have, so I don't have much suspension travel. In my case I need stiffer springs to keep the car off the bumpstops. However I also believe stiffer springs will help improve how the car feels over bumps and dips. It'll be rough I'm sure, but the car won't bounce as much as it does now.
Cant you stiffen your koni's to prevent this? This is what I do. When I know I am going drive over choppy roads I set the shocks stiffer to prevent the pitching and the bottoming. However harsh bumps send me 1"-2" out of my drivers seat
</TD></TR></TABLE>Koni shocks only adjust the rebound damping. Compression damping remains constant. But damping does not change how much the car bounces.
When you hit a bump or dip, the weight of the car and speed you hit sends a certain amount of force through the suspension to compress it. The spring rate determines how much the suspension compresses, because it takes a certain number of pounds of force to compress the spring 1 inch (lbs per inch spring rate). It doesn't matter if there is a high amount of damping (performance shocks) or a low amount (stock shocks). The damping serves to slow down the compression and rebounding of the springs. A high amount of damping will bring the suspension to a halt quickly. Less damping takes longer to suppress the springs motion.
When you have soft springs and soft damping, the wheels are able to follow the contours of the road while the body of the car remains more stationary, like the car is floating (big Caddy
). There is also a relatively large range of suspension movement.If you use stiff springs, the body is going to more closely follow the movement of the wheels, so you feel all the bumps. Because the body is moving up and down more, it makes the springs compress and rebound even more over bumpy roads, so the feel of the bumps is kind of amplified if the dampers are not stiff enough to contain the spring's movement (lowering springs on stock shocks).
In my case, I'm running Konis but with relatively soft H&R Sport springs. The springs lowered my car more than they should have, so I don't have much suspension travel. In my case I need stiffer springs to keep the car off the bumpstops. However I also believe stiffer springs will help improve how the car feels over bumps and dips. It'll be rough I'm sure, but the car won't bounce as much as it does now.
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