Thanks...its abit high but works for me cause any lower and my chassis will hit my driveway when I leave or back down to my garage! My midpipe scrapes as it is.

 

i droped my integra 2.5 inches and i love the handling but sometimes my exhaust will hit the ground, and i do scrape sometimes pulling out of my drive way... imo i would only go 2-2.5" drop for a teg...

 

i'm slammed. my integra drives and handles like ****.

I wouldn't have it any other way.

In the real world, it's all traffic jams, cops, and expensive gas.

I like to cruise, look good, drive slow, and get 35 mpg.

 

ok im seeing diff veiws here and there, my dc2 is slammed, it handles better and the ride looks sick low,but is there a bad side to having it low, besides, scraping, and that bs, cuz even when i had my hatch is was slammed and i drove it for about 3 years no problems, and same shocks,so why are some ppl saying dont lower more than 1.5'' and that stock axles werent made to handle more than 1.5'' drop?? im thinking on that one

 

ive noticed that slamming your car is big in the VW world. I would just go low enough for optimal handling. I have tokico matched springs and struts right now, but id like to switch to coilovers, my front sits higher then my rear right now.

 

im slammed on coilovers with tokico blue shocks and ive been driving like that for a few years and no issues what so ever, and it handles good

 

it does handle better than stock, but i'd say the optimum drop is around 1.5-2.0 inches. Wheel gap will be present.

 

these last couple answers have been extremely helpful. i understand that there is a drop that achieves an aggressive ride height while still maximizing performance. im not really to concerned about scraping because there was lots of that going on with my jetta
my next question would be where does the oilpan sit in regards to the subframe, above or below it? that was my only problem with the jetta was that the oilpan hung below the subframe so it made that the lowest point of the car. thanks for the help and heres another pic of the jetta for kicks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCgarage919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok im seeing diff veiws here and there, my dc2 is slammed, it handles better and the ride looks sick low,but is there a bad side to having it low, besides, scraping, and that bs, cuz even when i had my hatch is was slammed and i drove it for about 3 years no problems, and same shocks,so why are some ppl saying dont lower more than 1.5'' and that stock axles werent made to handle more than 1.5'' drop?? im thinking on that one</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im not sure why u think my input is BS? Im not trying to start an arguement but Im 30yrs old and not some kid just started in this automotive/motorsports scene. I worked for Penske Racing IRL league for about 3 years and worked with people at Penske Shocks very closely. I can talk about suspension or anything you might be interested all day long. Its just a phone call away.
All im saying is, stock components works well together because they were design that way from the manufacture. You can modify it all you want but just remember that everything else ties together with suspension, the driveline, transmission, bushings, etc......so be smart about your modification and dont do it because of "The Look" but also in a function stand point!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Carbon Fiber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so be smart about your modification and dont do it because of "The Look" but also in a function stand point!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Couldn't agree more.

I use to be pretty low and when I went to a few track events (VIR and CMP) I ended up having to brake earlier cause when I would brake late and harder the nose would dive to much causing me to rub on the wheel wells. Also during the turns I would often rub the tires on the fenders.

I recently purchased stiffer springs and will be putting them on and raising the car.

Ali

 

i dont no why you guys have issues with the susp. ive had my hatch slammed on coils for 3 years, and never had one issue, rode nice and looked great,have you seen the integra pic thread? more than have the cars here are slammed! no ones talking about them having problems with susp. maybe u got a crappy car,who knows

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by moreholden &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my next question would be where does the oilpan sit in regards to the subframe, above or below it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Forget the subframe part. The exhaust (header pipe to cat) will hit before the pan will, because the pipe routes under the pan itself. Smart design if you ask me.

 

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Couldn't agree more.

I use to be pretty low and when I went to a few track events (VIR and CMP) I ended up having to brake earlier cause when I would brake late and harder the nose would dive to much causing me to rub on the wheel wells. Also during the turns I would often rub the tires on the fenders.

I recently purchased stiffer springs and will be putting them on and raising the car.

Ali</TD></TR></TABLE>

the problems you are talking about arent due to only ride height, as you mentioned it has alot to do with the spring rates

if you have a properly matched spring rate and shock and your not riding on the bump stop it is alot better, also the higher you have the car the more of a sweet spot you will have on the shock

the best ways to improve handling are
tires
bushings
swaybars
cage
shocks
springs

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Carbon Fiber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks...its a bit high but works for me cause any lower and my chassis will hit my driveway when I leave or back down to my garage! My midpipe scrapes as it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I can see exactly were you are scraping on that hump in your driveway. I can picture your Teg trying to go .5 mph trying not to scrape, sucks. Nice property though.

 

dang, that's steep. and you're in PA! i'd be scared to drive up and down it in the snow...

eh, do whatever you want. function &gt; form for me, personally. you seem pretty knowledgeable about VWs so you probably won't go wrong with what you end up doing. you'll live and learn regardless. as far as the oil pan goes, i believe the oil pan is the lowest point as well, so that'd be your limiting factor... (unless you got a low sitting header like a jdm 4-1 header... then that for sure would be the lowest point at that point).

 

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eh, do whatever you want. function &gt; form for me, personally. you seem pretty knowledgeable about VWs so you probably won't go wrong with what you end up doing. you'll live and learn regardless. as far as the oil pan goes, i believe the oil pan is the lowest point as well, so that'd be your limiting factor... (unless you got a low sitting header like a jdm 4-1 header... then that for sure would be the lowest point at that point).</TD></TR></TABLE>
thank you
does anybody have or run skidplates on their car? they are becoming a lot more popular with vw's as it does prevent some, not all damage, from the oilpan. thanks again

 

You can be low and still have a decent ride and good handling. Just buy a reputable shock with dampening adjustability. Dampening ftmfw!


Modified by .PLUMMM at 11:14 AM 12/23/2007

 

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thank you
does anybody have or run skidplates on their car? they are becoming a lot more popular with vw's as it does prevent some, not all damage, from the oilpan. thanks again</TD></TR></TABLE>

my pos dc 4-1 is my skidplate

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCgarage919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont no why you guys have issues with the susp. ive had my hatch slammed on coils for 3 years, and never had one issue, rode nice and looked great,have you seen the integra pic thread? more than have the cars here are slammed! no ones talking about them having problems with susp. maybe u got a crappy car,who knows</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you tracking this car thats slammed or just driving around town? That's difference. As someone else mentioned spring rates play a factor as well. But you don't want to take a car thats tucking wheels to and HPDE event.

 

not track im talking about daily driving

 

your car will hold up better being slammed for daily vs if you take it on the track. however that also depends on the street conditions where you live, how you drive, and how low your car is. as well as what your dropped on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Carbon Fiber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you guys are forgetting about axle angle also. Stock Honda axles wasn't design handle such extreme angle like 2" or more lowering. That also go with your stock ball joints, tie rods, etc...... U can lower your car as much as you want for the "look" but u are overlooking all the other components that works well with factory geometry. General rules of thumb for a street car is to lower no more than 1.5" from factory. Eibach pro kit works fine for me, it is the strut that make the most different in ride quality if you think about it</TD></TR></TABLE>

expletive that, i see spoon cars with 4" drop and they seem to handle pretty well. just kidding

 

did you really roll with brokestatus or did you just get the plate?

 

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expletive that, i see spoon cars with 4" drop and they seem to handle pretty well. just kidding</TD></TR></TABLE>

man that axle angle is crap, me and my buddies since the late 90's and now have had slammed or lowered cars, and never had an issue with "axle angle" or whatever you wanna call it, see ppl talk about crap like that but have they seen the issue with that or experienced it?? i sure havent and my dc2 is slammed! handles great, rides smooth, and i dont have the "axle issue" and i think if you look around h-t and see most of the cars are either slammed or lowered and i havent heard anyone complain about "axle angle"?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCgarage919 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

man that axle angle is crap, me and my buddies since the late 90's and now have had slammed or lowered cars, and never had an issue with "axle angle" or whatever you wanna call it, see ppl talk about crap like that but have they seen the issue with that or experienced it?? i sure havent and my dc2 is slammed! handles great, rides smooth, and i dont have the "axle issue" and i think if you look around h-t and see most of the cars are either slammed or lowered and i havent heard anyone complain about "axle angle"? </TD></TR></TABLE>

You never really seem to post up useful information. Your axles will eventually go out due to your car being slammed. And being slammed doesn't give you the best handling. You need to take into consideration spring rates, shock travel distance, and many other things. I f'd up both of my axles on my LS when it used to be slammed before. My LS was only slammed for looks. My R on the other hand is only lowered about an inch and a half for performance with buddy club racing spec suspension.