Anyone have a flex a Lite rear windshield I'm debating whether to get one or not it would reduce alot of weight in rear hatch. I guess one of the biggest questions I'm wondering is do they make noise rattle or anything annoying like that?

 

I don't think fixed windows can rattle if installed properly, can they? Also, are they street legal?

 

that's what i was wondering too, is it legal? it seems like nowadays everything is illegal

 

doesnt flex a lite advertise how it is not easy to tell that they are different? Cuz if they look pretty similar to stock, then i dont see how it being illegal will ever make a difference since the cops dont usually go around inspecting windows ya kno? If its seriously noticable then thats a different storie.

 

That's what I was thinking. It's not like it's something noticeable like an exhaust. It looks like stock.

 

^ hmmm.. makes sense

 

I live next to the FAL headquarters/warehouse, and Ive seen the Lexan windows up close. They are specifically made for race purposes, yet people but them left and right for street use. There really is no problem with police agencies tracking down cars with these windows, its no biggie, mainly because cops are unaware of them. But, I do see the FAL logo etched in a lot of these windows, so it might be easy to spot.

 

you live in CA, so i'm going to have to say they are illegal there along with everything else.

 

lexan windows are ilegal for the street because if you get into an accident and needed to be removed from the vehicle the rescue wouldnt be able to smash the window to get you out, the only way i could see any lexan window being street legal would be the front windshield

is it really worth a few lbs to risk that kind of danger

 

well i thought we were talkin bout the small *** rear quarter windows ...
Cuz if thats wat we all are discussin, well i dont see anyone bein pulled thru that anyhow hahaha...

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=241240
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=214411
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=341324

Have a nice day

Austin

 

They don't smash out the front window. They use a special circular saw called an Excaliber. It cuts through glass so fast that it melts the edges, leaving no sharp points for you to catch on. Lexan is NOT going to slow that saw down. They can use the same saw to cut the roof of your car open if needed.

 

Oh, and also.. do you ACTUALLY KNOW how hard it is to smash a window out?

I bet you $50 you cant to it with a baseball bat. Break it, yes, but remove it?? nope.

Please refrain from spreading more false information. At least research it before you take the time to post.

 

My FAL rear window is nice. Cops will never know its not glass.

 

also read this:

http://www.darkhorseracing.net/safer_at_any_speed.htm

By Brion Gluck
http://www.Darkhorseracing.net

Racers sometimes have an adversarial relationship with safety equipment. No one gets in a car planning to wreck it, and all that stuff just adds weight, costs money and gives the tech inspectors something else to play gotcha with. If your number is up, it's up, right?

Wrong. Drivers are injured and even killed in their cars for reasons that often could have been prevented by correctly installed and functioning safety equipment. If the inspectors are going to make you have it in the car anyway, and they will, the equipment might as well be helping you.

Over the next several months, Mustangs Illustrated will feature a series of articles on important aspects of racing safety, including seats, harnesses, helmets, fuel cells, fire suppression systems, roll cages and more. We'll try to dispel a number of myths and misinformation that have sprung up about different types of equipment, so you can make informed decisions about what to buy, how to install it, and how to take care of it.

A significant source of injuries in racing accidents is the windshield. Tempered safety glass, found in many older Mustangs, is designed to break into many small shards that administer minor cuts rather than into a few large, heavy pieces that could take your head or some important body part off in a wreck. Newer laminated safety glass works better, with a layer of plastic in the middle that helps to hold glass fragments in, but it's still heavy, still glass, and still not all that safe for racing.

Prior to a few years ago, the only real alternative to glass was acrylic windows, also known as Plexiglas. Acrylic windows don't work well for windshields, as their optical quality isn't the best and they have a tendency to crack.

Lexan, a polycarbonate resin material from GE, has been around since the late 1950s, but only in the last 15 years or so started being used to make automotive windows. Lexan is one of those miracle plastics; it's half the weight of glass, 250 times more impact resistant, and is used to make everything from compact discs to eyeglass lenses. An inch-thick sheet of it will stop a .44-caliber handgun bullet fired at pointblank range, making it a favorite window material for armored sedans and limousines.

"You could literally take a 16-pound sledge hammer and beat on a piece of Lexan till you beat straight through it, and it still wouldn't break anywhere," said Bob Mayerle, owner of ProGlass, a major Lexan window supplier. "That's the beauty of the material."


Suppliers like ProGlass (www.proglasswindows.com, 630-553-3141) and Five Star Race Car Bodies (www.fivestar-online.com, 262-877-2171) offer replacement Lexan panes molded from original glass at prices ranging from less than $400 for a windshield to around $1,000 for a complete Mustang kit.

In NASCAR, Lexan windows have all but eliminated the tire failures that used to be common after a wreck, when shards of glass not cleaned up from the first yellow flag would take out more cars a few laps later. They're now a proven, common technology for road racers, drag racers and street rodders alike. A number of race series now require that Lexan replace glass.

"I was in Daytona for the beginning of Speed Week the first year we did this with (NASCAR), and
a glass windshield flew out of a car, went straight up on the back stretch, flipped up a hundred feet, came down and went right through the roof of a souvenir trailer," Mayerle said. "If the guy would have been standing where it came through the trailer he would have been killed."

Racing situations where parts come loose from other cars and start flying end with a bounce off a Lexan windshield where glass would have shattered and ended your day and maybe your racing career.

Even forgetting how much safer Lexan is, the reduction in weight from the front of the car (20 pounds for Lexan versus 80 pounds for the stock glass unit) is enough to make this a no-brainer modification for those serious about putting their cars on a diet.

Is it legal for use on the street? A Lexan windshield is as clear as a glass unit, and safer to boot, but check with your state and local authorities to make sure if you plan to use it on a street car. "I've never heard a customer say they've gotten a ticket," Mayerle said.

Lexan windows have a mar-resistant coating to help protect them, and you need to take precautions to preserve it. "Without a coating polycarbonate is very easy to scratch," Mayerle said. "You could scratch it with your skin."


Never use polishes or plastic window prep products to clean a Lexan window. "The only thing to use is a clear window cleaner, or soap and water," Mayerle said. Check with your window supplier on what products can be used; many products sold for cleaning windows work well on glass but will ruin Lexan by eating through the coating. Once the Lexan is scratched, it can't be polished clear again.

You can use wipers on Lexan; just make sure that the windshield is wet before you turn them on. The material sheds water naturally, eliminating the need to use products like Rain-X for the most part. If you must use it on yours, use very small amounts, follow the instructions on the bottle exactly and do it on a cooler day (65-70 degrees) out of direct sunlight.

 

interesting reading... as for someone like me who's not using my teg for a track only car... i don't think the fal or lexan windows are really worth it unless i got into a collision and it was a more affordable alternative. We all are so damn particular about how our car looks, i don't think i would be pleased wit a window that was more susceptible to scratches than my stock glass even if it isn't super sensitive.

As for weight savings? well i think keeping water out of my car and having less road noise is more important to me for the little amount of weight savings.

But all this stuff has been great reading.

 

I run the full back half... They are NOT legal, The look stock, why would they rattle? THey are glued in
Schu


looky:


https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=425584&page=1





[Modified by MSchu, 10:12 PM 3/12/2003]

 

what schu said. i don't personally run them (yet) but i DO plan on it. the etching, from anywhere more than 6 inches away, looks like an ordinary vinyl sticker. the weight savings is tremendous, and obviously like he said no leaking since they're glued.

what's not to like?

 

exacta mundo... On top of it, they can be polished if needed.
Schu

 

what about not having the rear defroster?? serious question not instigating...

 

Only a real issue when you are backing up, but it IS an issue. And again only when it is frosted or raining super hard. I have been caught with frosted rear windows and in a tight place but I am just very careful. Just don't run out and wipe it off when it is dirty, ya know
Schu

 

i know in nevada(where i live) all windows are legal to be lexxan ecept for the windshield. I have rear lexxan windows as well as about 5 of my friends. I love them, subtle yet raced out looking to those who know!!

 

Oh, and also.. do you ACTUALLY KNOW how hard it is to smash a window out?

I bet you $50 you cant to it with a baseball bat. Break it, yes, but remove it?? nope.

Please refrain from spreading more false information. At least research it before you take the time to post

a windshield yes because its layered glass, however all the other glass any man could easily put a fist through, have you ever seen a side or rear window after it gets hit...it shatters to pieces...a windhield will break and hold together because of the layering in the glass

 

http://www.kurisukurusu.com/carstuff...CN6378_JPG.htm

http://www.kurisukurusu.com/carstuff...CN9815_jpg.htm




[Modified by 2.0L Turbo, 8:19 PM 3/12/2003]

 

anybody know the prices for the FAL windows ? sides and rear for a 94-01 integra .