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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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So I dropped on my car on H&R Sports about 8 months ago and didn't notice bad tread wear untill a few months ago when i noticed my front camber was starting to get really bad. My rear tires are in tact, but when I looked on the tread for my front tires it seemed as if my right wheel had worse camber than the left. I'm getting some Potenza RE750's and I don't want to wear the tread down quicker than it should. On fixing the front camber, when my friend got his alignment done at Les Schwab the guy said that the alignment wont fix the camber that he needed a camber kit, and thats on his 00 SI.

So i've heard mixed things about alignment fixing camber.. will it or won't it? To be safe i can just pick up a set of ingalls kit for thr front.

And the guy at Les Schwab said for the rear camber it could be fixed with shorter LCA's to pull the wheel closer. Are Omnipower LCA's shorter? or the same lenght as stock.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:10 PM
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No, getting an alignment will not get you camber back to factory spec. What it will do is get your toe back to factory spec. If you want to fix your rear camber, you can always use the washer trick: http://g2ic.com/tegtips/brakesus/4.html

How many miles have you driven with your car lowered? Did you get an alignment after lowering your car? Whether you did or did not, I'd suggest rotating your tires at around 3K miles or sooner.

My DA is currently dropped 1.8 inches in the front and the rear. My camber varies from -1.8 degrees in the rear to -2.0 degrees in the front, and my tires are wearing fine with only an alignment.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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ive probably put about 5k miles on my tires ever since i've lowered it. but those tires are just going to get thrown out when i get my new tires.

do you think if i got my new tires. got an alignment, i should be fine? or would you suggest a front camber kit.
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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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IMO, from what I've expreienced on my car and what I've seen, you won't need a camber kit for you situation. Although some may argue against this, here's actual evidence (Look at PatrickGSR94's posts): https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1134767
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Old May 17, 2005 | 10:27 PM
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alright thanks a lot for the help.

i just wanted to get all this information sorted out before i invested money in tires and an alignment

so in a few days i'll be off to costco to pickup my new tires and getting an alignment done somewhere. hope to see good results for a while!
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Old May 18, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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dude it also depends what kind of tire/rim combo you have. is the wear on the innner or outer potion of the tire? when i bought my car is was dropped on neuspeed sport springs and it had some 17" rims. i got new tires on it with an alignment and like 4 months later the inner portion of my front and rear tires were substantially wornout due to the negative camber. i bought a skunk 2 camber kit and used the washer trick for the rears and now i have very even tire wear. i installed it myself, so it cost me around $150 plus another alignment but it is cheaper than buying tires every 5 months.. also if you install the front camber kit yourself go get an alignment immedately, because your front end alignment will be fucked up. so if you are rockin low profile tires and have a good drop a camber kit is a must. when you go to get an alignment ask for a printout and look to see if your camber is in/out of spec. hope this helps
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Old May 18, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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my tire/wheel combo is

stock ls mesh
205/55/15 tires


right now with my drop with no alignment ive been having inner camber wear
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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i would say get a camber kit and a alignment if you are planning on getting new tires anyway. why buy new tires/alignment if you are gonna have this same problem again in a few months? get it all done right the first time. if you drop your car getting an alignment is a must, because it changes everything. some people with a wheel/rim combo like yours claim then dont get excessive inner tire wear when dropped, but i cant claim to have any experience with that. my came with 17's and low-profile tires have a stiffer sidewall so that may be the reason they are more susceptible to inner wear due to neg camber.
here are a few helpful links at team-integra.net

http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=783


http://www.team-integra.net/se...D=744


i reused the stock bolts and only used 1 washer per bolt for spacing for the rear. the front was straightforward, and the only thing you will need that i didnt have was a gear-puller for the balljoint. laters
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Old May 19, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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I dropped my 92 RS 1.8 inches on Nuespeed sport springs and then had a front end alignment. I ran this setup without a camber kit with brand new Khumos and the inside tread on fronts and rears were wearing terribly. I only got about 15K miles on those new tires. Then I installed my Ingalls extreme in the front and a few washers in the back with another alignment and the tires are wearing perfectly even now. I sure wish I would have gotten the camber kit before wasting the first set of tires.

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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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alright cool, ill probably end up picking up a front camber kit and doing the washer trick noo the rear. but if from what i've seen my rear tires have even tread wear
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Old May 19, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fistandauntilus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dude it also depends what kind of tire/rim combo you have. is the wear on the innner or outer potion of the tire? when i bought my car is was dropped on neuspeed sport springs and it had some 17" rims. i got new tires on it with an alignment and like 4 months later the inner portion of my front and rear tires were substantially wornout due to the negative camber. i bought a skunk 2 camber kit and used the washer trick for the rears and now i have very even tire wear. i installed it myself, so it cost me around $150 plus another alignment but it is cheaper than buying tires every 5 months.. also if you install the front camber kit yourself go get an alignment immedately, because your front end alignment will be fucked up. so if you are rockin low profile tires and have a good drop a camber kit is a must. when you go to get an alignment ask for a printout and look to see if your camber is in/out of spec. hope this helps</TD></TR></TABLE>

Boom. Exactly. Same here.

Tires get expensive.

Damn previous owners who don't do research and sell problems......
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Old May 22, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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better spend the money now and safe your investment than blowing more money on another set of tires
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Old May 24, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Whilst on the subject of camber kits, which kits replace the upper control arm? Very important, as I need to replace my current kit, since it's hard to adjust and tune.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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Skunk 2 and Omni power do, there might be others, but those two do for sure.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:05 AM
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skunk2 and onmipower for the front. i have skunk2, but they are basically the same, get whichever one you can find cheaper. not sure about the back, i went the cheap route for those.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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Sweet. Thanks for the replies and info. I used washers and longer bolts for the rear upper control arm. I don't see why some call that ghetto. I'm using automotive bolts, not duct tape and speaker wire. Plus this way there's nothing that can go wrong that wouldn't with it stock. No extra parts to break.
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Old May 26, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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look at what i found here

http://passwordjdm.com/product...D=277
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Old May 26, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Nice. High grade washers. They're probably JDM. Since it's rear camber it will probably add about 15-16% torque at the rear wheels.
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