Catalytic / Catalyst Readiness ? How long? Help with Inspection / Smog.
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Catalytic / Catalyst Readiness ? How long? Help with Inspection / Smog.
Hi Everyone,
I'm having the darn-est time getting my 2001 Acura Integra readiness Monitor to set. I drove for over 100 miles already and checked the readiness with my OBD scanner and it still says INCOMPLETE.
In NY State, since my car is a 2001, I can only have 1 monitor not ready. The two that I dont have ready is EVAP and Catalytic.
The Evap will never get ready because I am missing a Evap solenoid (Which I already ordered from Honda) but will take 5 days to come in. Once that comes in, I can tackle that monitor not being ready.
So my question is, what issues could it be that my CAT is not getting ready? Here is a list of things i did already.
-Changed Out BOTH 02 sensors with Denso Direct Fit ones.
-Changed out my spark plugs, Wires, Cap & Rotor.
-Put in a Brand new Catalytic Convertor.
-New OEM Fuel Filter
-Oil Change
I have no check engine lights, no pending codes or anything like that, its just the CAT never gets gets in the readiness mode where its okay to pass inspection.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
I'm having the darn-est time getting my 2001 Acura Integra readiness Monitor to set. I drove for over 100 miles already and checked the readiness with my OBD scanner and it still says INCOMPLETE.
In NY State, since my car is a 2001, I can only have 1 monitor not ready. The two that I dont have ready is EVAP and Catalytic.
The Evap will never get ready because I am missing a Evap solenoid (Which I already ordered from Honda) but will take 5 days to come in. Once that comes in, I can tackle that monitor not being ready.
So my question is, what issues could it be that my CAT is not getting ready? Here is a list of things i did already.
-Changed Out BOTH 02 sensors with Denso Direct Fit ones.
-Changed out my spark plugs, Wires, Cap & Rotor.
-Put in a Brand new Catalytic Convertor.
-New OEM Fuel Filter
-Oil Change
I have no check engine lights, no pending codes or anything like that, its just the CAT never gets gets in the readiness mode where its okay to pass inspection.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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Re: Catalytic / Catalyst Readiness ? How long? Help with Inspection / Smog.
If a monitor reports "not ready", then the OBD-II test concerning that monitor has not yet been run by the ECM. None of the work you did will help make any test run, and may even have delayed the test from running (as well as possibly wasting your money).
From a Honda document I have:
Testing of Readiness Codes
If you take your vehicle for a state
emissions test shortly after the
battery has been disconnected or
gone dead, it may not pass the test.
This is because of certain ‘‘readiness
codes’’ that must be set in the onboard
diagnostics for the emissions
systems. These codes are erased
when the battery is disconnected,
and set again only after several days
of driving under a variety of
conditions.
If the testing facility determines that
the readiness codes are not set, you
will be requested to return at a later
date to complete the test. If you must
get the vehicle retested within the
next two or three days, you can
condition the vehicle for retesting by
doing the following.
Make sure the gas tank is nearly,
but not completely, full (around
3/4).
Make sure the vehicle has been
parked with the engine off for 6
hours or more.
Make sure the ambient
temperature is between 40° and
95°F.
Without touching the accelerator
pedal, start the engine, and let it
idle for 20 seconds.
Keep the vehicle in Park
(automatic transmission) or
neutral (manual transmission).
Increase the engine speed to 2,000
rpm, and hold it there until the
temperature gauge rises to at least
1/4 of the scale (about 3minutes).
Select a nearby lightly traveled
major highway where you can
maintain a speed of 50 to 60 mph
(80 to 97 km/h) for at least 20
minutes. Drive on the highway in
D (A/T) or 5th (M/T). Do not use
the cruise control. When traffic
allows, drive for 90 seconds
without moving the accelerator
pedal. (Vehicle speed may vary
slightly; this is okay.) If you cannot
do this for a continuous 90
seconds because of traffic
conditions, drive for at least 30
seconds, then repeat it two more
times (for a total of 90 seconds).
Then drive in city/suburban
traffic for at least 10 minutes.
When traffic conditions allow, let
the vehicle coast for several
seconds without using the
accelerator pedal or the brake
pedal.
Stop the vehicle, turn off the
ignition switch, and leave it off for
30 minutes.
If the testing facility determines the
readiness codes are still not set, see
your dealer.
From a Honda document I have:
Testing of Readiness Codes
If you take your vehicle for a state
emissions test shortly after the
battery has been disconnected or
gone dead, it may not pass the test.
This is because of certain ‘‘readiness
codes’’ that must be set in the onboard
diagnostics for the emissions
systems. These codes are erased
when the battery is disconnected,
and set again only after several days
of driving under a variety of
conditions.
If the testing facility determines that
the readiness codes are not set, you
will be requested to return at a later
date to complete the test. If you must
get the vehicle retested within the
next two or three days, you can
condition the vehicle for retesting by
doing the following.
Make sure the gas tank is nearly,
but not completely, full (around
3/4).
Make sure the vehicle has been
parked with the engine off for 6
hours or more.
Make sure the ambient
temperature is between 40° and
95°F.
Without touching the accelerator
pedal, start the engine, and let it
idle for 20 seconds.
Keep the vehicle in Park
(automatic transmission) or
neutral (manual transmission).
Increase the engine speed to 2,000
rpm, and hold it there until the
temperature gauge rises to at least
1/4 of the scale (about 3minutes).
Select a nearby lightly traveled
major highway where you can
maintain a speed of 50 to 60 mph
(80 to 97 km/h) for at least 20
minutes. Drive on the highway in
D (A/T) or 5th (M/T). Do not use
the cruise control. When traffic
allows, drive for 90 seconds
without moving the accelerator
pedal. (Vehicle speed may vary
slightly; this is okay.) If you cannot
do this for a continuous 90
seconds because of traffic
conditions, drive for at least 30
seconds, then repeat it two more
times (for a total of 90 seconds).
Then drive in city/suburban
traffic for at least 10 minutes.
When traffic conditions allow, let
the vehicle coast for several
seconds without using the
accelerator pedal or the brake
pedal.
Stop the vehicle, turn off the
ignition switch, and leave it off for
30 minutes.
If the testing facility determines the
readiness codes are still not set, see
your dealer.
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Re: Catalytic / Catalyst Readiness ? How long? Help with Inspection / Smog.
Thanks mate for that. But here are a few things that might be an issue.
"Make sure the ambient
temperature is between 40° and
95°F."
- Right now the ambient temperature is hovering around low 20s to high teens.. (Buffalo, NY)
"Make sure the gas tank is nearly,
but not completely, full (around
3/4)."
- i just filled up the tank yesterday with Non-ethanol gas.
Would you think I would still be able to do the test even though temps are in the low 20s / high teens?
Thanks in advance.
"Make sure the ambient
temperature is between 40° and
95°F."
- Right now the ambient temperature is hovering around low 20s to high teens.. (Buffalo, NY)
"Make sure the gas tank is nearly,
but not completely, full (around
3/4)."
- i just filled up the tank yesterday with Non-ethanol gas.
Would you think I would still be able to do the test even though temps are in the low 20s / high teens?
Thanks in advance.
If a monitor reports "not ready", then the OBD-II test concerning that monitor has not yet been run by the ECM. None of the work you did will help make any test run, and may even have delayed the test from running (as well as possibly wasting your money).
From a Honda document I have:
Testing of Readiness Codes
If you take your vehicle for a state
emissions test shortly after the
battery has been disconnected or
gone dead, it may not pass the test.
This is because of certain ‘‘readiness
codes’’ that must be set in the onboard
diagnostics for the emissions
systems. These codes are erased
when the battery is disconnected,
and set again only after several days
of driving under a variety of
conditions.
If the testing facility determines that
the readiness codes are not set, you
will be requested to return at a later
date to complete the test. If you must
get the vehicle retested within the
next two or three days, you can
condition the vehicle for retesting by
doing the following.
Make sure the gas tank is nearly,
but not completely, full (around
3/4).
Make sure the vehicle has been
parked with the engine off for 6
hours or more.
Make sure the ambient
temperature is between 40° and
95°F.
Without touching the accelerator
pedal, start the engine, and let it
idle for 20 seconds.
Keep the vehicle in Park
(automatic transmission) or
neutral (manual transmission).
Increase the engine speed to 2,000
rpm, and hold it there until the
temperature gauge rises to at least
1/4 of the scale (about 3minutes).
Select a nearby lightly traveled
major highway where you can
maintain a speed of 50 to 60 mph
(80 to 97 km/h) for at least 20
minutes. Drive on the highway in
D (A/T) or 5th (M/T). Do not use
the cruise control. When traffic
allows, drive for 90 seconds
without moving the accelerator
pedal. (Vehicle speed may vary
slightly; this is okay.) If you cannot
do this for a continuous 90
seconds because of traffic
conditions, drive for at least 30
seconds, then repeat it two more
times (for a total of 90 seconds).
Then drive in city/suburban
traffic for at least 10 minutes.
When traffic conditions allow, let
the vehicle coast for several
seconds without using the
accelerator pedal or the brake
pedal.
Stop the vehicle, turn off the
ignition switch, and leave it off for
30 minutes.
If the testing facility determines the
readiness codes are still not set, see
your dealer.
From a Honda document I have:
Testing of Readiness Codes
If you take your vehicle for a state
emissions test shortly after the
battery has been disconnected or
gone dead, it may not pass the test.
This is because of certain ‘‘readiness
codes’’ that must be set in the onboard
diagnostics for the emissions
systems. These codes are erased
when the battery is disconnected,
and set again only after several days
of driving under a variety of
conditions.
If the testing facility determines that
the readiness codes are not set, you
will be requested to return at a later
date to complete the test. If you must
get the vehicle retested within the
next two or three days, you can
condition the vehicle for retesting by
doing the following.
Make sure the gas tank is nearly,
but not completely, full (around
3/4).
Make sure the vehicle has been
parked with the engine off for 6
hours or more.
Make sure the ambient
temperature is between 40° and
95°F.
Without touching the accelerator
pedal, start the engine, and let it
idle for 20 seconds.
Keep the vehicle in Park
(automatic transmission) or
neutral (manual transmission).
Increase the engine speed to 2,000
rpm, and hold it there until the
temperature gauge rises to at least
1/4 of the scale (about 3minutes).
Select a nearby lightly traveled
major highway where you can
maintain a speed of 50 to 60 mph
(80 to 97 km/h) for at least 20
minutes. Drive on the highway in
D (A/T) or 5th (M/T). Do not use
the cruise control. When traffic
allows, drive for 90 seconds
without moving the accelerator
pedal. (Vehicle speed may vary
slightly; this is okay.) If you cannot
do this for a continuous 90
seconds because of traffic
conditions, drive for at least 30
seconds, then repeat it two more
times (for a total of 90 seconds).
Then drive in city/suburban
traffic for at least 10 minutes.
When traffic conditions allow, let
the vehicle coast for several
seconds without using the
accelerator pedal or the brake
pedal.
Stop the vehicle, turn off the
ignition switch, and leave it off for
30 minutes.
If the testing facility determines the
readiness codes are still not set, see
your dealer.
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Re: Catalytic / Catalyst Readiness ? How long? Help with Inspection / Smog.
Then drive around until the level drops to below 3/4, then perform the drive cycle as per the instructions.
Do you have an OBD-II reader? If so, you can check yourself to see if the monitors report "ready" before you go to the test station.
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Not much you can do about that, obviously.
Then drive around until the level drops to below 3/4, then perform the drive cycle as per the instructions.
Maybe. Try it; you have nothing to lose.
Do you have an OBD-II reader? If so, you can check yourself to see if the monitors report "ready" before you go to the test station.
Then drive around until the level drops to below 3/4, then perform the drive cycle as per the instructions.
Maybe. Try it; you have nothing to lose.
Do you have an OBD-II reader? If so, you can check yourself to see if the monitors report "ready" before you go to the test station.
I do have an OBDII reader that are able to check readiness. I drove around 120 miles already since resetting the ECU on Saturday and still not ready. I will check it today before my drive to work.
Is there anything connected to the EVAP readiness cycle where its not allowing my CAT to not get ready? Are they connected in some way? I'm just thinking out aloud etc.
Thanks!
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Re: Catalytic / Catalyst Readiness ? How long? Help with Inspection / Smog.
You must pay very close attention to the details in the drive cycle I posted. Those details are very important.
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