a couple nights ago i recieved my first ref ticket. as of now my setup is..
1992 integra
1st gen jdm b16a converted to obd1
USDM OBD1 P72 ecu
aebs intake manifold as the only mod
other than that its STOCK
im kind of stuck decided how to resolve this..

should i just go try n source an ls motor and whatever smog equipment i might be missing?

OR try to get my b16 BARed?

does anyone have any info that would help my situation or what the ref will require you to have. is it even possible to BAR a jdm motor?

ive tried searching but didnt find anything that could answer my questions well enough..thanks


Modified by SINFULintegXsi at 7:51 PM 7/16/2005

 

You can BAR a first gen B16. You basically need to make the motor look like it came out of a 95 del sol (P30 intake manifold, exhaust manifold, purge valve, etc and u can use your stock DA air box and tube). That also means you will NEED a usdm P30 ecu.

 

Make sure your tranny matches with the motor and all of your sensors and hoses are hooked up. Other than that smogging a JDM motor is just as easy as smogging a USDM motor as long as everything is hooked up correctly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H_doubledeuce_A1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure your tranny matches with the motor</TD></TR></TABLE>

im not sure i know what that means anymore haha..
i have an S1 tranny w/LSD will that pass with my 1st gen JDM B16a?

 

Why are you running a b16a w/ a p72?

 

its what was in the car when i bought it..i use it because it works and it has a knock sensor..ive ran a chipped p28 before but sold it because it was cause my car to ping at high rpm's..i know its not the ideal ecu but i always felt safer with it than the p28 i sold

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SINFULintegXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its what was in the car when i bought it..i use it because it works and it has a knock sensor..ive ran a chipped p28 before but sold it because it was cause my car to ping at high rpm's..i know its not the ideal ecu but i always felt safer with it than the p28 i sold</TD></TR></TABLE>


p30 is ideal, i wouldnt run a p28 or chipped p28 either

 

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p30 is ideal, i wouldnt run a p28 or chipped p28 either</TD></TR></TABLE>

does anyone know if a p72 will get me passed inspection?

 

it wont, you will absolutely need the USDM B16A IM from a B16A3 and you will need a USDM P30 ECU

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by temp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it wont, you will absolutely need the USDM B16A IM from a B16A3 and you will need a USDM P30 ECU</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks a lot for the info..i guess ill be selling my aebs intake manifold and my p72.. so b16a3 is from what car now? del sol right?

 

heres my of things i need so far...
usdm p30 ecu
usdm b16a3 intake manifold
94-95 throttle body w/map sensor
new cat (mine was gutted)

is there anything else anyone can add?

 

the purge valve and misc. emission items.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SINFULintegXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks a lot for the info..i guess ill be selling my aebs intake manifold and my p72.. so b16a3 is from what car now? del sol right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yessir del slow.......best thing to do is go grab a pic (online or copy from the shop manual) of the IM setup, with the vacuume lines, etc....make sure it looks nice just like that manual pic and you should have no problems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H_doubledeuce_A1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Make sure your tranny matches with the motor </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true, your current tranny will be fine.

 

how about using a skunk 2 intake manifold? arent they smog exempt? they are definately easier to find then a b16a3 intake manifold

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SINFULintegXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how about using a skunk 2 intake manifold? arent they smog exempt? they are definately easier to find then a b16a3 intake manifold</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep should be perfectly fine. I know a guy who ref'd his B18C1 with a skunk manifold.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep should be perfectly fine. I know a guy who ref'd his B18C1 with a skunk manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yep I passed visual at the smog ref with my skunk2 manifold. He didn't even check for a carb sticker even though I had one.

 

damn.. you gotta make everything look exactlt as it would look on a VTEC del sol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by michaelOlson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yep I passed visual at the smog ref with my skunk2 manifold. He didn't even check for a carb sticker even though I had one.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yep :-)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SINFULintegXsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a couple night a go i recieved my first ref ticket. as of now my setup is..
1992 integra
1st gen jdm b16a converted to obd1
USDM OBD1 P72 ecu
aebs intake manifold as the only mod
other than that its STOCK
im kind of stuck decided how to resolve this..

should i just go try n source an ls motor and whatever smog equipment i might be missing?

OR try to get my b16 BARed?

does anyone have any info that would help my situation or what the ref will require you to have. is it even possible to BAR a jdm motor?

ive tried searching but didnt find anything that could answer my questions well enough..thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

thanks for the bump

 

just curious.. what was the reason they made you go to the ref? Also where in SD did you get pulled over? thanks

 

he asked what i had under the hood and i told him stock...when he looked under the first thing he did was look at the vin..sd cops know whats up now because my motor looks bone stock..not even an intake.

oh yeah i got lit up right in front of SWC the cop even ran a red light to bust a U and pull me over

 

damn that sucks.. sorry about the bad luck..

 

you know by LAW they cant search under your hood without a warrant, technically its "locked"