need help!!!! texas residents especially!
#1
Who the fack changed my title?!
Thread Starter
need help!!!! texas residents especially!
so i have been on the phone for the last hour or 2 trying to track down a reputable shop that does cylinder head machining. and i cant seem to find ANY ONE who will do it. im starting to think that i may have to send my head out to another shop to have it done. can any one please tell me where i can find a shop that will do a line bore on my cam caps please?!?! it is starting to **** me off!
#2
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
not TX, but try getting a hold of Alex Pagan at Humble Performance. they are in Tulsa, OK and i'm sure has somebody local to them that can do your machining in a timely manner, and they don't build bullshit motors, so their machining guy is top notch i'm sure
http://www.humbleperformance.com/
http://www.humbleperformance.com/
#3
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: indianapolis, in
Posts: 231
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
so i have been on the phone for the last hour or 2 trying to track down a reputable shop that does cylinder head machining. and i cant seem to find ANY ONE who will do it. im starting to think that i may have to send my head out to another shop to have it done. can any one please tell me where i can find a shop that will do a line bore on my cam caps please?!?! it is starting to **** me off!
#5
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: houston, tx, united states
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
if your cam caps are out of round then the head was probably severely overheated which means cams bent too. i dont think they could line hone that small either. since youre in houston give westside machine and houston engine & balance a call
#6
Who the fack changed my title?!
Thread Starter
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
they didnt give me any help...well they said they just couldnt do it. but i called houston engine and balancing, no luck. also camshaft recon in pasadena still no luck. but luckily off of mcgowen and 59 theres a place called scroggins and thats where i ended up having luck. a guy said he could do it by hand for cheap is it was simple, and for around 300 if it was a serious issue.
#7
Honda-Tech Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Socal sometimes/Houston, Tx, USA
Posts: 718
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
I've heard and had crank main cap lined honed but thought you had to replace the head if the cam caps were off. Guess I learned something new.
But Scroggins does reputable work from what I've seen an had experience with.
But Scroggins does reputable work from what I've seen an had experience with.
Trending Topics
#10
Who the fack changed my title?!
Thread Starter
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
if i have to pay for the work and it takes a hit in the pocket...then screw it i at least know that it will last. cant get any better than that. but i spoke with bobby whom i believe is the owner of the shop. pretty cool/nice guy when i first met him. he seemed to relax a little more when i came up and started talking to him about faerman racing engines and how dennis did most of my work to my motor and how i checked to see if the parting lines were a little off. he said alot of kids usually came to his shop with fuxed up heads due to oil pressure loss/lack of oil getting to the head.
#11
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
Cam bores can be align-bored, but as you have found, it's time-consuming and thus expensive. For most heads, good cores are less expensive than the machine work needed.
If you need this work because you lost or damaged the cam caps that came with the motor, align-boring is the only option and will work. The cam caps are matched to the individual motor on which they came, and are NOT exchangeable between engines without align-boring. That's why heads without cam caps are generally worthless.
If your head overheated, it can warp enough the entire head enough to bind up the cams. If that happened, align-boring the cam tunnel will only allow the cams to spin until the head is bolted down, at which point the tension on the head bolts or studs will "warp" the head flatter on the deck, and bind up the cams again. To properly flatten the head is chancy and expensive, and involves heating, flattening, and heat treating before cam align boring. Many heads made of aluminium have been too affected by overheating and are junk after they've been over heated no matter what you are able to do about the flattening.
Summary: only heads that already have very expensive machine work or are so expensive or unavailable from the manufacturers should be considered for this work. On anything else, an undamaged core is cheaper, stronger, flatter, and much less expensive to machine to what you want in the first place.
If you need this work because you lost or damaged the cam caps that came with the motor, align-boring is the only option and will work. The cam caps are matched to the individual motor on which they came, and are NOT exchangeable between engines without align-boring. That's why heads without cam caps are generally worthless.
If your head overheated, it can warp enough the entire head enough to bind up the cams. If that happened, align-boring the cam tunnel will only allow the cams to spin until the head is bolted down, at which point the tension on the head bolts or studs will "warp" the head flatter on the deck, and bind up the cams again. To properly flatten the head is chancy and expensive, and involves heating, flattening, and heat treating before cam align boring. Many heads made of aluminium have been too affected by overheating and are junk after they've been over heated no matter what you are able to do about the flattening.
Summary: only heads that already have very expensive machine work or are so expensive or unavailable from the manufacturers should be considered for this work. On anything else, an undamaged core is cheaper, stronger, flatter, and much less expensive to machine to what you want in the first place.
#12
Who the fack changed my title?!
Thread Starter
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
ive had this head for 4 years and never ran it. and it has pretty much from what i remember everything done to it including what you mentioned. hell, i even had to take it to a special shop to ark out a stripped oil galley bolt!
#14
Re: need help!!!! texas residents especially!
watts engines , very smart man , he can do it dont know if he will or not though, and he has built some of the best engines on this thread
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jaydeep
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
5
03-09-2012 11:20 AM
obuhmyuh
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
22
06-03-2008 02:28 PM
SoCaLNaTIvE
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
3
04-24-2005 09:21 AM