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Old 05-09-2013, 10:58 PM
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Default B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

2000 coupe with b18 and ls trans looking to get a new trans have two to pick from looking to 1/4 track the car n/a. My choices are a S4 (si trans) or a Y80/S80 (gsr trans) both USDM. Found my research everyone says b16 tranny and possible differental upgrade later because weaker diffs.. My question short distance 1/4 mile which would be better??

A friend and I both have the same setup he though has a gsr tranny and I am stuck with the slow ls tranny he beats me every time I'm hoping to pull ahead by making a better choice with which trans I buy

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s4c b16 jdm trans has dual synchro's an LSD.
anyway b16 usdm si has a little closer ratios than usdm gsr i think both has same final drive 4.4.
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Yeah I don't believe this is JDM tranny it is just stamped S4. That's why I was curious what would be better to run?
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Default Re: B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

personally I like the my ITR which is basically a b16 lsd trans. it SUCKS to do any highway driving but I do not drive much if ever on highway so its ok for me. I like the fact I can cruise around town in 5th and still be at 2.3/2.5k rpms and have tq to pull in traffic if needed
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Originally Posted by jdmh22eg2
personally I like the my ITR which is basically a b16 lsd trans. it SUCKS to do any highway driving but I do not drive much if ever on highway so its ok for me. I like the fact I can cruise around town in 5th and still be at 2.3/2.5k rpms and have tq to pull in traffic if needed
Ok thanks h22eg for the personal advice! So far I am leaning more towards the b16 trans from what I've read.
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np. btw I drive 11 miles one way to work on a 50mph county highway and 4 miles city (part of total 11 miles) and still average 30-33 with gsr w/itr trans
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Default Re: B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

Originally Posted by peteyparado
s4c b16 jdm trans has dual synchro's an LSD.
anyway b16 usdm si has a little closer ratios than usdm gsr i think both has same final drive 4.4.
Both the GSR and B16 have the Dual Cone Synchro on 2nd Gear only.

For 1/4 N/A I would go with the B16 transmission since the shaft gearing is shorter. They both have a 4.40 Final Drive ratio.

As mentioned above. The ITR trans is a good alternative since the USDM and 96 Spec JDM versions have the same gear ratio as the B16. 98 Spec JDM ITR will have a 4.78 Final Drive ratio and GSR 4th and 5th Gear ratio.

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For 1/4 N/A I would go with the B16 transmission since the shaft gearing is shorter. They both have a 4.40 Final Drive ratio.

As mentioned above. The ITR trans is a good alternative since the USDM and 96 Spec JDM versions have the same gear ratio as the B16. 98 Spec JDM ITR will have a 4.78 Final Drive ratio and GSR 4th and 5th Gear ratio.

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Thanks man for the good info really helpful! I'll remember your name I'd like to pay and get my Ls trans sent out and built with new gears.
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Default Re: B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

which b18 do you have? that makes a big difference with transmission choice.
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Default Re: B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

I have a b18b1 with mild head build.
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Default Re: B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

Def have to say the B16. The LS doesn't have the high revs or TQ for the slightly longer geared GSR.
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Default Re: B18 with GSR or B16 Trans??

I'd go with the B16 transmission, but you should consider getting a Type R transmission as well.
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I love my itr just expect to suffer above 75 mph.
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