DonF

Most of the RR ioling problems come after really hard braking and a abrupt right turn. Lefts are not much prob. because of the natural wall (baffle) of the pan. I would work at bafflings the sections that are affected by those.

fastbrakes

One thing I found out the hard way is the placement of the extra side of the pan for the increase in capacity. I had a pan welded up and it turns out the 'kick out' wouldn't clear the fixed bearing on the 1/2 shaft....make sure you lower the upper edge of the 'kick out' to clear that bearing...

tom_l

hmmm. the kick-out also gives somewhere else for the sloshing oil to go instead of being more centered around the pick-up w/ a stock dimension pan. yeah, you can carry more oil, but you need to in order to keep the levels the same as stock.

Grip

can the pan come with an oil temp bung? is a windage tray necessary?

rsca_crx

any possibility of a k-series application?

bdb

Another H22 road racing vote right here!

slammed_93_hatch

id really like to see more baffeling horizontally and vertically around the pick up area. HOnestly i think the moroso (eeeekk) Road racing pan hit it on the noise.

Bambooseven

iTrader: (1)

I know the chances are slim, but I'm in for a D-series pan or two if that ever happens.

The sweed

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Add a vote for me for a H22 road-race pan. I'm very sure my H22 mid-engine Mini is going to suck air cornering if I don't do something...

A good road racing pan will have:
1. A fully baffled sump with trap doors, preferably four.
2. A horizontal baffle extending in-board as far as possible around the pickup.
3. A windage tray that *just* misses the crank (very important).
4. Stock depth, and a kick out to the rear.

A great way to test a pan design is to fill it with 5-qts of water and tilt it back and fourth. Hot oil will be fairly runny... so the trap doors need to really work. At 1G, picture the oil at a 45deg angle; the top baffle should extend inboard as far as possible, and not have openings along the outside edge which defeats its purpose. In fact the horizontal baffle should/can tilt downward toward the center to aid drainage and to further contain the sloshing oil.

If you're going to do a pan, do it right and you'll sell a lot more then the guys who sell these "half way there" solutions.

I was prepared to design and build my own but if someone comes out with a complete solution, I'm all over it


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Hi Vince!! Long time...

I agree fully with this guy... A realy good product will sell it self too.. Get some trapdores to that and I´ll buy one for b-series. Have a look at the new moroso pan I was just going to get til I saw this one..
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1150542

Peter K

Add another one for h22. my stock pan is BUSTED.

bdb

Do we have enough interest to warrant a baffled H22 pan? Any idea of when this could be made? Hopefully before spring?

vtecvoodoo

Looks great, Vince

I have been using the GEM shizzle on my car(s) for years

ITRacer121

Pan looks great! and I really respect a company asking the customers what they want!
I was curiouse if it would benefit the pan to have some sort of heat sinks like on the motors of remote control cars? this along with the extra amount of oil would lower engine temps I would think
but eh what do i know?

kommon_sense

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Looks like you have beads in the pan for strength. Wouldn't it be wiser to have the beads running from front to back instead of left to right? Extra strength against hitting debris on the track ?

Would also be nice to have an option for an oil return for the catchcan.

Any plans for this pan for a d-series, specifically the d16y8 (96-00 civic ex)?

kb58

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Looks like you have beads in the pan for strength. Wouldn't it be wiser to have the beads running from front to back instead of left to right? Extra strength against hitting debris on the track ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They're run the long dimension to make the metal stiffer and prevent "oil canning." You're probably toast if you hit anything since it's thin aluminum... best to have a separate guard for it.

kb58

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The problem is, if there are cooling fins, they'll cool the oil that's right against that surface. When that oil cools, it gets thicker and "stickier" meaning it'll tend to stop moving. The cooled oil, in effect, insulates the hot oil from any cooling benefit. At least that's my understanding.

Track rat

Looks like a really nice piece! I'll agree on the braking comment someone made earlier. At a recent enduro (NASA road racing) I was low on oil a couple of laps before our pit stop and I noticed little oil pressure guage dips in rights, not lefts; and real big dips under braking!

Any estimitates on what the Golden Eagle pan might sell for?

kb58

Haven't seen a post recently by Golden Eagle... are you watching this?

X-Mazda 3 Racer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Haven't seen a post recently by Golden Eagle... are you watching this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am watching and will be answering shortly. I am extremely busy and trying to get ready for race season. I'll come on this weekend to answer all the questions
Thanks for all the input guys! Keep it coming.
Vince

bdb

Any updates on the possibility of a baffled H22 road race pan?

paulyg

Another potential H22 pan buyer right here. As long as it has baffles and traps for road racing and fits in a 5th gen (H22A4) with no problems.

Don't H22s already have a windage tray in the oil pan?