letam06

I have a jdm b16a swapped ej1. I have the basic I/h/e mods. I was thinking about upgrading my intake manifold and throttlebody next to a skunk2 setup. Or should I save my money and do a vavletrain and then cams. Is the skunk2 valvetrain with stage 2 cams any good?

gpmillerjax

Cams and a tune would help a lot.

edit: I'm saying for the money....because it would also maximize your previous upgrades (I/H/E).

Matt55

the valvetrain wld see more hp but as you know stage 2 means you need to do more things to get max results ie, intake mani and tb

hickle

win

primaryOBSESSION

Clutch/flywheel!

host23age

i vote for valvetrain and cams and tune..

letam06

well i already have a stage 2 clutch and 11lb flywheel. well looks like im going with the valvetrain and cams. i have been looking at the skunk2 valvetrain. is that one any good or are their better for the money.

supersize

clutch and flywheel will help you drive it with more HP and stuff, but i would also vote for cammin it out and tuning it

boxeocampeon

rebuild the bottom end and then boost maybe?

Scotty Dosent Know

LOL WTF is "stage 2"


save for boost, unless you are going to do a full NA build any little all motor parts you throw at it are going to do next to nothing.

fastrxu

How much do you have?

Have you heard of brian crower cams?

letam06

Funds are quite limited. I'm a full time college student workin full time. I want to try to stay away from boost. Since this is my first project car I wanna do a nabuild. Learn as much as possible in the process. Have heard of crowler cams but they are a little expensive for me. Basically I need the best bang for my buck. as far as the tuning goes the only place to tune that I know of is roughly a 5 hour drive away. Would getting the ecu chipped for my car, after upgrades of course, be an alternative to getting it tuned.

Matt55

a tuning stage, theres stage 1, 2 and 3

Matt55

and cams and a tune is definitely "Noticeable" power

Scotty Dosent Know

lol right...........you know this is real life not ****ing grand turismo right?


Explain to us the "stages"


I bet my car is at stage 4.............yea didnt know there was a stage 4 did ya?


go in the forced induction section or all motor section and talk about "tuning stages"

Pushnmyluck

pistons; tuning; manifold n tb

letam06

Thanks for the help everyone. Much appreciated.

Matt55

http://www.cartuningtips.com/140-car-tuning-stages

letam06

nice post matt55. if you look, for example, at the skunk2 cams you can see that you can get stage 1's, 2's, or 3's. or if you look at buddy club's cams. they have the spec III's = tuning stage 1, IV's = tuning stage 2, and V's = tuning stage 3. i dont understand how he thinks we are just making this up.

92ehatch

its easy to assume someone is making something up.

ill agree tho, if you arent boosting a cam and tune will be a good addition

buddy of mine put a cam in his ls, didnt notice much, then he tuned it and got an extra 10 hp on the dyno. not too bad if you ask me

Scotty Dosent Know

No, I know that some people use the term "stages" but it is about the most vague lame term I have ever heard. Any one who knows any thing about cars would rather hear the specs on the cam instead of "stage 2!" I did go to the website and the explanations are vague also.

No one who actually has a car that makes any kind of power talks about stage 1 or 2 or blah blah blah.

Like I said before get out of the civic section and post a thread about what "stage" you should tune to in the all motor section. That why H-T has an all motor section. This section is for trouble shooting.

letam06

ok here ya go. i was looking at the buddy club spec IV's as my first choice in cams. any better option around that price range?

Matt55

what? most ppl know what stage 1, 2, and 3 are. If you didnt know its no big deal no one cares.

4FoRaLL

Well aside from them hijacking your thread. I agree with the previous posters. Cams and Valvetrain and a good tune.

I myself have the skunk2 valvetrain and the tuner street cams. Been in the car for 3+ years. Def more grunt up top. I would go that route. And nice to see your willing to learn. Good luck on the build.