EJ8VTEC

i was jus wondering about the differences between the JDM '95 b16 n JDM '95 GSR trans, both w/ stock LSD. I know the GSR has slightly longer gears, any other differences?? Is there any reason y i shouldnt use a GSR tranny on a b16sirII??
thx

Kyles ej1

cuz it will make it slower than it already is

Andres-eh2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93ejay1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cuz it will make it slower than it already is</TD></TR></TABLE>



You need shorter gears to make up for no torque.

hatch34

yea just get the b16 tranny short gears means you get goin faster with your little TQ numbers it helps to have the short gear

JohnnyWash1

The GSR tranny has a stronger differential and *slightly* taller gears, but same final ratio.


Jon

komat

http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm

EJ8VTEC

i figured the GSR was stronger n i know the gearing is a little longer, but will that really make my car that much slower... according to the chart<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by komat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
it shouldnt be that much different

Kyles ej1

yes it will. a gsr tranny on a b16 will make it run like a d16z6. i have a z6 and ive beat an si and sol and both have b16s

EJ8VTEC

so ur tellin me my car w/ a b16 n a GSR trans will be as slow as my car is now w/ d16??? give me a break

Kyles ej1

if its a y8 or a z6 then yea but dont believe me, go ahead and get the gsr tranny and regret it right after u put it in and think to yourself, damn i wish i would have listened to honda-tech

EJ8VTEC

d16 is 127hp, the b16 is 170, the small difference in gear ratio will cause my b16 to feel like it has less than 130 hp, cause ur sayin<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93ejay1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a z6 and ive beat an si and sol and both have b16s</TD></TR></TABLE>

so that si n sol both had gsr trannys??? n they both new how to drive??

Kyles ej1

d16-106 trq
b16-111 trq
the si had a itr tranny and the sol had a b16 tranny and they both know how to drive.

u dont have to listen to me im just telling u what i know. u can get the gsr tranny i really dont give a ****, its your car.

aj99si

I have a gsr tranny on my b16 and there is a noticeable difference. It is in a ek coupe which is heavy. It is quite a bit slower especially the 1 to 2 shift and the 2 to 3 shift. It also takes a lot longer to accelerate if you are low in the powerband (4000) due to the lack of torque.

EJ8VTEC

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aj99si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a gsr tranny on my b16 and there is a noticeable difference. It is in a ek coupe which is heavy. It is quite a bit slower especially the 1 to 2 shift and the 2 to 3 shift. It also takes a lot longer to accelerate if you are low in the powerband (4000) due to the lack of torque. </TD></TR></TABLE>

most hondas have **** accel b4 4krpm, if i race some1 ill jus do it from a 50mph roll or somethin

NerveAgent

b16 with gsr tran

turbo_b16_ex

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GSR with b16 trans do that

Capt. Jimbo McSubipants

b16 trans

sportin the Ls with a b16 trans.....i beleive the guy that says he beat b16's with ITR trans..i keep up with my brother who has a ITR del sol...for early shifts..then he gets me in the middle of 3rd...and thats with VTAAAAAAAAK..

EJ8VTEC

that same guy also said he beat a del sol w/ a b16 n a b16 trans n he got a d16z6, so ur sayin a z6 beat a b16 w/ itr trans???

the itr gears r even longer than a gsr correct??

JohnnyWash1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CoupeVtec2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that same guy also said he beat a del sol w/ a b16 n a b16 trans n he got a d16z6, so ur sayin a z6 beat a b16 w/ itr trans???

the itr gears r even longer than a gsr correct??</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, the ITR gearing (for USDM) is identical to the B16 trans---the difference is the synchros and diff.

The JDM ITR gearing is the same for gears 1, 2 and 3---but the final drive is shorter, making it the best all motor tranny.

Bimmerman

I would go with the gsr trans if you are gonna boost it

EJ8VTEC

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well its already on the way... the diff is stronger, n i may boost eventually so i think ill have to eat the .2 - .4 sec i may loose, im sure ill beat a na d16 n it will still be decently quick, im not too worried

JohnnyWash1

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well its already on the way... the diff is stronger, n i may boost eventually so i think ill have to eat the .2 - .4 sec i may loose, im sure ill beat a na d16 n it will still be decently quick, im not too worried</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good choice. Alot of Honda people like to make alot out of nothing. You won't notice a difference and you will be getting a stronger trans, which is more important anyway. Besides, you can always upgrade your final drive to 4.785.


Jon

EJ8VTEC

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Good choice. Alot of Honda people like to make alot out of nothing. You won't notice a difference and you will be getting a stronger trans, which is more important anyway. Besides, you can always upgrade your final drive to 4.785.


Jon</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ef Whore

The difference won't be much....just not as tightly geared up front

EJ8VTEC

thanks for some info i already got steve...jp