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Old 07-26-2011, 11:21 AM
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power steering is a plus on a eg but i dont think its necessary on a EG... the steering is already light enough... and im skinny..... it really depends on you..... i think everybody goes through a phase eventually when they want their hondas to be comfortable as much as possible.... if you do alot of city driving. then maybe u should convert it....
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Originally Posted by scuzz
I went to bone yard and got power steering rack and plumbing from 94 LX and put it on my 95 DX hatchback.
It was a pretty lengthy changeover, but well worth it. I drive mostly city and in and out of parking spaces. It really made live a lot easier.
I had to take exhaust down and left axle shaft out, remove right tie rod from power rack to get old out and new in.
The plumbing is a little of bitch to get from bottom to top, but far from impossible.
Nothing else special or changing out sub frames, just a couple days labor and 40.00 worth of junk yard parts.
And yes, front pulley needs changing and you need bracket with power steering pump.
I didn't notice any drop in mpg or performance.
Great info man, thanks much for sharing.

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i think everybody goes through a phase eventually when they want their hondas to be comfortable as much as possible...
Funny you mention that man, I think I *am* in that phase right now. I just finished wrapping the floor with sound deadening and changing the carpet... trying to make it quieter and more comfortable.

Thanks for the input all. I think I'll keep manual steering, at least for now.
Old 07-29-2011, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by kaiba
Leave it manual.
this...a little car like that shouldnt need power steering...put a little back into it...lol
Old 07-29-2011, 03:00 PM
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I just got done gutting a powersteering system and those lines are pretty in there.
Old 08-24-2011, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Izo
No one is doubting that PS in addition to being a safety equipment is also a tool of convenience as you good folks of HT describe it :-).
In fact many are! PS is NOT for safety at ALL! It's a luxury. YOU are the only one claiming PS is a safety option.

Before you open your bloated mouth again maybe you should read the real reason PS has been added to cars. You will also note there is NOT one mention of safety.

http://www.gates.com/common/download...n/428-7172.pdf

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However 'why' something is invented has nothing to do with it's actual properties. Please go back to grade school if you don't understand this..
Your obviously an uneducated twerp. I'm sure you also think the world revolves around you too.

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Also 'when' it is standard / more often than not is again confounding. Airbags didn't use to be standard did they? Seriously people, it's not that surprising that cost is such a big player with regards to options..
Another uneducated assumption. Only in the North America and Europe. Most other country's still do not use it on their small cars. It add's to the cost of the car, decreases fuel economy, adds weight, and another item to break down on the car.
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What a speedy comeback - You where held back in school I take it. What part of 'enough already' didn't you understand?

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Izo
What is the value of staying alive and healthy in a near crash incident where you use the PS to avoid getting killed or injured? Do your drive your kids in this car? Does your wife? Do you have a life insurance policy? Seriously, not having PS is not worth those few 'saved' $$.
How is manual steering dangerous? How is it in any way shape or from in dangering a child riding in the car?!

It's a freaking luxury. There is a reason why that car did not come with it, it's a bare bones ecomony car, not a ****ing BMW.



Honestly, I would leave it alone. Why? It's not worth it me, all the work that would be involved, for the little gain in comfort for a daily driver, is just not worth it to me.

Let the reccord show, I have PS, becuase I am too lazy to remove it.
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How is manual steering dangerous? How is it in any way shape or from in dangering a child riding in the car?!

It's a freaking luxury. There is a reason why that car did not come with it, it's a bare bones ecomony car, not a ****ing BMW.



Honestly, I would leave it alone. Why? It's not worth it me, all the work that would be involved, for the little gain in comfort for a daily driver, is just not worth it to me.

Let the reccord show, I have PS, becuase I am too lazy to remove it.
We've covered the safety part or at least some of us have. Read the thread. Or don't. I don't really care anymore. I'd scrap or sell the car though, and get one with PS.
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Originally Posted by Izo
We've covered the safety part or at least some of us have. Read the thread. Or don't. I don't really care anymore. I'd scrap or sell the car though, and get one with PS.

I read your posts, I still don't see how not having PS is a safty issue?

Maybe people in denmark suck at driving?
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
I read your posts, I still don't see how not having PS is a safty issue?
It's cool, whatever floats your boat :S
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Maybe people in denmark suck at driving?
That's one possibility. Another is that it's the other way around.
Last time I checked the 'International Road Traffic and Accident Database' it showed that the USA really SUCK regarding road safety and only compare to the single worst country in Europe - Greece. As a bonus info: We learn to drive a stick. Every single one of us. Funny, huh?

Here are some links for you 'educated' people:
http://www.irtad.net
http://stats.oecd.org
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Originally Posted by Izo
It's cool, whatever floats your boat :S

That's one possibility. Another is that it's the other way around.
Last time I checked the 'International Road Traffic and Accident Database' it showed that the USA really SUCK regarding road safety and only compare to the single worst country in Europe - Greece. As a bonus info: We learn to drive a stick. Every single one of us. Funny, huh?

Here are some links for you 'educated' people:
http://www.irtad.net
http://stats.oecd.org
Raods suck, sure.

Funny, yea kind of. I hate when people can't drive a stick.
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
Raods suck, sure.

Funny, yea kind of. I hate when people can't drive a stick.
Let me rephrase the 'roads' part. It's the 'Injured and killed in traffic' part that really is bad in the USA.
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Originally Posted by Izo
That's one possibility. Another is that it's the other way around.
Last time I checked the 'International Road Traffic and Accident Database' it showed that the USA really SUCK regarding road safety and only compare to the single worst country in Europe - Greece. As a bonus info: We learn to drive a stick. Every single one of us. Funny, huh?
THIS.
This is one thing I can back up Izo with. I've lived in Europe most of my life and let me tell you, driving in the US *is* one of the most painful things I have to deal with, even after several years living here.

As far as the safety debate, I am staying out of it.

For the record, we *finally* received a remanufactured manual rack and installed it tonight. It was a PITA to get. I can't wait to get my baby back.

Thanks again for the advice.
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Originally Posted by Izo
Let me rephrase the 'roads' part. It's the 'Injured and killed in traffic' part that really is bad in the USA.
meh, I am not argueing that, but there is quite a bit more than what goes into that.


I've never driven or even been to Europe, so I can't speak on that.

BUT, It's not that bad here. Maybe it's only because I grew up here?
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Pssh, I don't have PS on my daily driver and it doesn't affect me at all. Builds muscle. More muscle = not as hard to turn.. whether your going slow or fast.

It's all a matter of opinion, if it's easier and you would rather do the swap because you don't like it without.. do it. It's your car.. do it how you want it.
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