thermal

Where can i get a 220v to 110v transformer online? Reason being is that i bought a welder from a performance shop that closed down. I couldnt resist it for $200 with an argon bottle already provided still full:



Now, my garage doesnt have a 220v outlet since it is a detached garage ran by the apartment complex staff. The welder has a dryer type plug. I'm really excited to use this welder but I cant find a transformer for it..... Help!

oxSLEEPERxo

like to know also

thermal

Lowes and Home Depot doesnt have it. Gonna check out a local electrical supply place

wishingiam

Do they even exist? if so would'nt it just trip the circut breaker?

Want2race

FORGET THAT IDEA!

Those transformers would blow sooo high you wouldnt believe it.

A normal 120volt cuircuit @ most is 20amps.. And your expecting that with 220v which would be 40 amps @ 120v.

So basically its never going to work.

Start shopping for a long extention cord or make yourself a cable long enough to get to your dryer. No transformer is ever going to get the job done!

thermal

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Want2race &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

FORGET THAT IDEA!

Those transformers would blow sooo high you wouldnt believe it.

A normal 120volt cuircuit @ most is 20amps.. And your expecting that with 220v which would be 40 amps @ 120v.

So basically its never going to work.

Start shopping for a long extention cord or make yourself a cable long enough to get to your dryer. No transformer is ever going to get the job done! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Funny thing is, I've thought of that too. The welder is rated at 120 amps also. It will definitely be unsafe to even convert it. I guess I messed up on this one. I'm gonna try to sell it instead.....

dfoxengr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thermal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where can i get a 220v to 110v transformer online? Reason being is that i bought a welder from a performance shop that closed down. I couldnt resist it for $200 with an argon bottle already provided still full:



Now, my garage doesnt have a 220v outlet since it is a detached garage ran by the apartment complex staff. The welder has a dryer type plug. I'm really excited to use this welder but I cant find a transformer for it..... Help!</TD></TR></TABLE>

PMd you

drumking15

while on the electrical gig....i have a 3 wire dryer socket in my basement...is there any way to convert this to 4 wire so i can make a huge extension cord to my garage (50+ft) to power my air compressor & possible new welder...the guy a home depot was all about not giving me info...he's like you cant do this...you cant do that...i know it can be done...

the 3 wire has 2 hots & a neutral...its just missing the ground...so i was wondering if i could make a 3 wire cable from basment and then use a 120 socket in my garage as the ground..

any help here guys thanks!

legendboy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumking15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while on the electrical gig....i have a 3 wire dryer socket in my basement...is there any way to convert this to 4 wire so i can make a huge extension cord to my garage (50+ft) to power my air compressor & possible new welder...the guy a home depot was all about not giving me info...he's like you cant do this...you cant do that...i know it can be done...

the 3 wire has 2 hots & a neutral...its just missing the ground...so i was wondering if i could make a 3 wire cable from basment and then use a 120 socket in my garage as the ground..

any help here guys thanks!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the cost of making a 50' extention cord out of the recomended wire is gonna be pricy!

drumking15

not really...in comparision to running the wire and having a licensed elec and bld permits...wire is cheap...50 ft prob cost me about $100-150 and thats overshooting it

dfoxengr

but then again, if you have to run say 150ft from your basement, it isnt the smartest idea...

Formula Racing

It can be done. My welders only 3 pin so I have a 30ft cable that runs thru the cat door.
Basically I used 6/2 cable. It has a heavy jacket on it. I do not let it coil so it should be perfectly fine. Just avoid coiling! Thats asking for ****!

I dont see a reason you couldnt run a 6/3 cable and have no problems.

AS for the ground, Any outlet would work OR if you have a grounding rod you could use that.

NJIN BUILDR

If its four wire it probably is 3phase.You could run a 3 wire (single phase) extension and then run a phase converter in you garage.Very few residential streets have 3 phase available at the pole.
Glenn

beepy

It is possible to convert a pair of off-phase 110v circuits into a single 220 volt circuit at twice the rated output of either of the 110v circuits.

This is how 220 is created in your home. If you look at the circuit breaker, the top left breaker has positive polarity. The one below it and the one to the right are both negative, and it goes in a checker pattern. Note that a 220v circuit breaker is actually just an adjacent pair of 110v breakers.

Here is a simple test to see if you can make 220. Take a multimeter set on AC voltage, and test the voltage across the hot and ground terminals of the 110v plug in your garage. It should read 110v. Now run an extension cord from another room. Place the leads of the multimeter between the hot terminals on both circuits. You will either see 220v or 0v. If you see 0v try another room. Eventually you should be able to make 220v. Now you will simply have to make a harness that connects the outlet in your garage and the extension cord to the 3 or 4-prong 220v socket. The hots go to the hot and neutral leads on the 220v, and the grounds from the 110v plugs go to the grounds on the 220v plug. Now you should have 30 or 40 amp 220v.

Ghetto? Yes, but it is the same way your dryer gets 220v power, only the wiring is in the breaker box.

dfoxengr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is possible to convert a pair of off-phase 110v circuits into a single 220 volt circuit at twice the rated output of either of the 110v circuits.

This is how 220 is created in your home. If you look at the circuit breaker, the top left breaker has positive polarity. The one below it and the one to the right are both negative, and it goes in a checker pattern. Note that a 220v circuit breaker is actually just an adjacent pair of 110v breakers.

Here is a simple test to see if you can make 220. Take a multimeter set on AC voltage, and test the voltage across the hot and ground terminals of the 110v plug in your garage. It should read 110v. Now run an extension cord from another room. Place the leads of the multimeter between the hot terminals on both circuits. You will either see 220v or 0v. If you see 0v try another room. Eventually you should be able to make 220v. Now you will simply have to make a harness that connects the outlet in your garage and the extension cord to the 3 or 4-prong 220v socket. The hots go to the hot and neutral leads on the 220v, and the grounds from the 110v plugs go to the grounds on the 220v plug. Now you should have 30 or 40 amp 220v.

Ghetto? Yes, but it is the same way your dryer gets 220v power, only the wiring is in the breaker box.</TD></TR></TABLE>

very clever beepy

drumking15

sick!!! i knew i could do it...the guy at home depot was railroading me w/ no info...he's like you cant do that and cant do this...im like listen buddy im just using this till im oput of my rents house then ill wire it properly...he's like blah blah blah your going to die...imn like heh...the least of my concerns is 220v nevermind a 400whp honda