killerbeee16

iam turbo'n my b16 this winter and its gunna have stock internals,and as far as the head i replaced the b16 cams with some gsr's.I was wondering how much boost can i push safely??? like daily driving? and when i wanna hit some one up on a race what can i turn it up to safely??

TurboJesse

i run 14-15ish

DENCIO

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good luck

TurboJesse

thicker headgasket ownz me...

killerbeee16

are you seriously pushin 14-15psi ... cuz i heard 10 is max on stock internals....

RobbieG35

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I have seen a video of a 99-2000 Si with 20 pounds of boost with a T3/T4 turbo, stock block and head. Just a thick *** head gasket and alot of fuel and tuning. Ran 7.4 in the 1/8 mile with a bone stock motor

TurboJesse

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unless my boost gauge is lying to me....Yes i am, and i plan on running ~20psi with my new turbo on race gas next year...Alot of people have heard stuff that is wrong..

Bulldogg83

12-13 lbs.........

trbob16a

I normally run 9lbs low, 15lbs high, 18lbs against a fast car from a roll with my 60-1 and pump gas. Oh wait.. my setup is built.

Without a headgasket I think about 10, 12 if you keep it rich and tune well. With a headgasket 15lbs is fine.

Killer_B

you didn't say what Turbo you have. 15lbs on one Turbo is not the same as 15lbs on another Turbo.


with the average T3/T4 i wouldn't go over 10lbs of boost. if it is tuned with a standalone or Piggy back (Hondata) and big injectors then you can get away with a little more boost.

for the average knucklehead, i wouldn't suggest more than 10lbs.


you guys can't just suggest that he push 14-15lbs w/o explaining what *you* have to tune the car or without explaining that the car needs to be tuned well. you can't expect a motor to last long with 15lbs boost and FMU.

The Crow

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Killer_B &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you didn't say what Turbo you have. 15lbs on one Turbo is not the same as 15lbs on another Turbo.


with the average T3/T4 i wouldn't go over 10lbs of boost. if it is tuned with a standalone or Piggy back (Hondata) and big injectors then you can get away with a little more boost.

for the average knucklehead, i wouldn't suggest more than 10lbs.


you guys can't just suggest that he push 14-15lbs w/o explaining what *you* have to tune the car or without explaining that the car needs to be tuned well. you can't expect a motor to last long with 15lbs boost and FMU.</TD></TR></TABLE>

15psi with a sc61 and that thing would FLY!............apart

Killer_B

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15psi with a sc61 and that thing would FLY!............apart </TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly correct !!!

15psi with a straight T3 and you'll be okay.

TurboJesse

sorry for not being clear...I run 14-15psi with a t3/to4e 60 trim .63ar...not a HUGE turbo but def not a small t3. I run this daily and on pump gas, it is tuned with hondata s100. I switched to an SC61 for next year and plan to run 12psi daily (300-320whp) and 20psi (Goal is 400whp) with c16 for the weekend races/track. I do run a 2mm headgasket which lowers my compression to ~9:1 and ARP headstuds. Hope that clears things up, and yes a good tune is required, ive seen stock b series blow up @ 200whp and ive seen stock b series last for over a year @400whp...

killerbeee16

thanks for all ur guys input.... by the way iam running drag t3/t4 turbo everything else cutom piece together ..... as far as injectors iam doing rc 310cc...... so u guys figure 10psi is max i push with stock b-end and gsr cams?? oh yea what head gasket you reccomend?? 1mm,2mm,3mm???? i hear its not that safe to run such a thick headgasket either ????

TurboJesse

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killerbeee16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for all ur guys input.... by the way iam running drag t3/t4 turbo everything else cutom piece together ..... as far as injectors iam doing rc 310cc...... so u guys figure 10psi is max i push with stock b-end and gsr cams?? oh yea what head gasket you reccomend?? 1mm,2mm,3mm???? i hear its not that safe to run such a thick headgasket either ????</TD></TR></TABLE>

your gonna need alot more than 310cc injectors, if all your gonna boost is 10psi you don't need the headgasket, with the headgaskt you can run 12-14 safely on pump gas, more on race gas...

killerbeee16

lol ok next question..... what size injectors should i run &gt;&gt;&gt;?? i thought 310's would be fine till next winter whne i do b-end completely..... soo higher injectors and thicker headgasket ...12-14psi safely ?? does every 1 agree ? remember iam on complete stock b16 internals.....

DENCIO

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killerbeee16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol ok next question..... what size injectors should i run &gt;&gt;&gt;?? i thought 310's would be fine till next winter whne i do b-end completely..... soo higher injectors and thicker headgasket ...12-14psi safely ?? does every 1 agree ? remember iam on complete stock b16 internals.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'd like to know too..I have dsm 450 right now..

TurboJesse

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by killerbeee16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol ok next question..... what size injectors should i run &gt;&gt;&gt;?? i thought 310's would be fine till next winter whne i do b-end completely..... soo higher injectors and thicker headgasket ...12-14psi safely ?? does every 1 agree ? remember iam on complete stock b16 internals.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

get 720's and hondata...12-14 is fine, no not everyone will agree because most people have "heard" that you can run more than 10psi on stock motors Im running the same setup you described (2mm headgasket and ARP headstuds) i boost 14.7psi (1bar) on pump gas..i also beat the **** out my car and do countless runs to 120+, no problems yet. im keeping the stock engine and going for 400whp next on c16

DENCIO

on all those runs, how long do you think your engine will last?

Maddox

Dam 720's... What kind are you running RC or some DSM?

Let me know. Im running the same setup.. B16 with stock internals ..GSR cams.. Let me know. Thanks

killerbeee16

to run 10-12 psi safely on stock bottom end with gsr cams... what should i do??

TurboJesse

not to be a dick but its very simple and outlined many times in this post..