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Old 06-17-2005, 01:04 PM
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it looks like you got gsr rods.
Old 06-17-2005, 01:27 PM
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nope, you got b16 rods.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuperTeg95 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks like you got gsr rods. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Im not sure but that block looks like a tall deck to me.
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maybe wrong crank??
Old 06-17-2005, 01:48 PM
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I dont think the wrong crank would even come in to play, since the rods that he received are already showing being shorter than his stock ones....
Old 06-17-2005, 01:50 PM
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thats what i thought. but the rod difference is what got me thinking.

isnt the tall deck dart just plain huge?
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the rods are the issue, maybe even the pistons, who knows
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dude whats up witht that block, dide you machine your own block out of aluminum opr something lol
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its a dart block. thats what they look like
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If the black one is a stock B20 rod and yours is significantly shorter it's pretty obvious you didn't get Manley LS/B20 rods, you probably got B16 rods but it seems like there's something funky going on as well. B16 rods would only put the piston a tenth down further in the hole then LS/B20 rods. Measure the deck height of your block, check out your pistons, and your crankshaft as well.
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You have any better pictures of the block?
Old 06-17-2005, 05:59 PM
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just some numbers out of the months honda tuning.
from the pic it looks like there is way more than 1mm diff.

b16a=137mm
b18a1,b20b4=137mm
b18c=138mm
b17=131.9mm
h22=143mm
h23=141.5mm
k20=139mm
k24=152mm
Old 06-17-2005, 06:03 PM
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more math
137 millimeter = 5.3937008 inch
http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_common.htm
Old 06-17-2005, 06:17 PM
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im goin to killmyself....... all i wanna do is BOOST
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So you either have the wrong pistons, wrong crank, or a tall deck block. The rods are right!
Time to measure that deck height.
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I love Dart Blocks.
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Default Re: RODS ? WTF!! (fknfast)

That is a tall deck Dart block you are playing with. It is around 9/16" taller than the standard block, which is 211.5mm compared to your 226mm block. If you are using stock pistons and rods, you will get that result. I think Eagle makes a set of rods you can use with an ls crank to get your geometry correct.
My question to you is how did you get a tall deck Dart block and not know it?
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Heres a picture for you to compare. Its a block form post earl made not to long ago.


Also, not sure whats up with the rod deal but if thats really a pr4 rod, then the manley is obviously the wrong one. When you measure rods, I think you measure from center bore to center bore.
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i ordered a standard one and when it arrived i just dropped it off at the machine shop without checking anything, and when the assembly started to take place i came across that speed bump.


anyone wanna trade a tall for a ready to roll standard since im a moron.
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what explains the rod length difference.
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Default Re: RODS ? WTF!! (fknfast)

Assuming there *is* a rod difference between the stock B20 rods and those silver rods, someone really fuct up at that place. Whats odd is that there shouldn't be a 14mm difference between a B20 rod and any other b-series rod like that shows (almost an entire wrist pin bushing [19mm] short).

I guess you should make a lot of measurements, stroke/deck/rod/wrist pin height... BTW Earl's buildup was a tall block, yours looks the same. No idea about the rod diff.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1262775

Old 06-17-2005, 09:22 PM
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damn man...lol!!!!


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