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Old 07-12-2010, 12:02 AM
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Default B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Coming to B series from SOHC, built a 400whp sohc and now I'm building a b16 here's the setup

GE Block guard
Block is honed and decked
Bored out to 81.5mm
Mahle forged pistions
Eagle rods
stock crank polished

stock b16 head
GE Fuel rail

unknown of what clutch yet

borgswarner s256 turbo
tial 38mm wastegate
rc autoworks ramhorn
precision 1000cc injectors

Possibly GSR LSD tranny

Should I be doing an inline fuel pump setup and new lines?
Also what clutch would be best and reasonably prices to hold the power? Should I be going with an aftermarket intake manifold?

and whatever else advice you can think to give would be appreciated
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Originally Posted by Fr0z3N
Coming to B series from SOHC, built a 400whp sohc and now I'm building a b16 here's the setup

GE Block guard
Block is honed and decked
Bored out to 81.5mm
Mahle forged pistions
Eagle rods
stock crank polished

stock b16 head
GE Fuel rail

unknown of what clutch yet

borgswarner s256 turbo
tial 38mm wastegate
rc autoworks ramhorn
precision 1000cc injectors

Possibly GSR LSD tranny

Should I be doing an inline fuel pump setup and new lines?
Also what clutch would be best and reasonably prices to hold the power? Should I be going with an aftermarket intake manifold?

and whatever else advice you can think to give would be appreciated
Your going to need at least a stage 5 clutch. Stock head doesnt sound too good. I would port and do a supertech valvetrain. If money doesnt allow, just get the supertech valvetrain to be on the safe side. I would upgrade to a Tial44. I would go with a bosh 044 pump kit, and any aftermarket Intake Manifold will do you fine.

Hope that helps
Old 07-12-2010, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

I'm thinking

Golden eagle intake manifold
Competition 4 puck stage 5

where can I find the supertech valvetrain kit

for fuel I have a walbro 255 is that good enough?

Also I already have the tial 38mm I was told it was good to 800 no problem.
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Stock head is fine, don't waste your money on a port job. You only need to upgrade your valvetrain if you want to up your redline. If you understand what a wastegete does you'll know a bigger gate helps you control boost better at low levels. To make 500-600whp you're clearly going to need to run a lot of boost so a bigger gate won't help you. No need to buy another. I easily made 500whp on a 38mm gate. Golden Eagle IM is fine, look into Skunk2 or VictorX too. It depends what youre reving the car to and where you want your power. A single 255 is good for about 500, after that you'll need a second pump.
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Whats the best intake manifold to go with? ge, skunk2 or victorx?

and would this be a good choice for fuel needs? http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/go6prokitwin.html
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

I made 723 on a gsr 2.0 liter. stock ports . stock gsr cams . on 25 psi. you should use a walboro 255 an add the 044 pump for your fuel system.
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stock bore b16 570whp borg warner s362 turbo with 35lbs of boost build your head victor x manifold and exedy hyper single clutch it held for us for 3 years but it was just a track car
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Don't really need to upgrade the fuel rail, I'd upgrade the valve train to supertech and call it a day. Everything else sounds on point. The inline pump would be a good idea if you want to push around 600hp.
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Originally Posted by Fr0z3N
Whats the best intake manifold to go with? ge, skunk2 or victorx?
Skunk2 will give you a more power over the VictorX from about 4000-7000rpm. Above that the VictorX takes over. It just depends where you want the power. The victorx will give you higher peak hp however if this is a street car you may want to go with the skunk2 for better low end power. For a drag car go with the victorx
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

no opinions on a ge manifold? it looks so nice...

any links for a victor x I can go check out?
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Originally Posted by Fr0z3N
no opinions on a ge manifold? it looks so nice...

any links for a victor x I can go check out?
The golden eagle is nice, it will perform like the victorx but overpriced imo. Get the victorx and spend that $300 elsewhere. At 500hp you won't see too much of a difference on the dyno between the two. Here's the victorx (p.s. google makes it easy to find things)

http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/ede...xmanifold.html
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Yeah I found it read up on it but I asked cause I couldnt find the price lol.


Turns out my buddy has one (victorx) for $450 with a 68mm s2 throttle body is that a good deal should I grab it?
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

you're going to need a 70mm TB.

and i'd say go with a brian crower valvetrain, or crower valvetrain.. doesn't matter. both are quality. otherwise no sense in doing cams with no headwork or you're just going to a) blow it up or b) waste money. a walboro 255 will be sufficient for about 550 anything over i'd recommend a 2nd pump. i'm going with a Victor X manifold to a 70mm, however, the JE one is nice too. but we will be making around the same power next year between 500-600. however mine is going to be a full built gsr.
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stock head here witht he exception of supertech springs

victorx/72mm t.b. number sin signature man

you cna and will make power with the stock stuff alot of people will tel, you that you can not but there wrong.
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you might want to sleeve the motor....toss the block guard those are junk
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pm sent for Intake Quote
''COAST TO COAST G.E. BOOSTS THE MOST''
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i smell a deal lol
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well then it took you long enough to get to it lol
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Doesnt matter, build is still going strong.... slow, but its still happening.
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

update on stuff I have:

38mm Tial - DONE
Clutch Competition stage 5 - DONE
ARP Headstuds -DONE
GE Fuel rail -DONE
Vacuum manifold -DONE

Stuff I need

Ramhorn manifold - NEED
81.5mm headgasket - NEEED
supertech valvetrain - NEEED
70 or 72mm throttle body - NEED
victorx intake mani - NEED
stage 3 cams undecided - NEED
slicks/rims - NEED

Anything else I need?
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Default Re: B16 build 500-600 goal need advice

Originally Posted by Fr0z3N
update on stuff I have:

38mm Tial - DONE
Clutch Competition stage 5 - DONE
ARP Headstuds -DONE
GE Fuel rail -DONE
Vacuum manifold -DONE

Stuff I need

Ramhorn manifold - NEED
81.5mm headgasket - NEEED
supertech valvetrain - NEEED
70 or 72mm throttle body - NEED
victorx intake mani - NEED
stage 3 cams undecided - NEED
slicks/rims - NEED

Anything else I need?
You don't need those "stage 3" of any cam. Stock cams
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