Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
09-06-2011, 04:03 PM
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Man, that is INSANE!!!! Gives me high hopes for a future build. LOL. VERY good job! Must be a hell of a driver. Seems so consistent for how fast it is.
One thing that helps me on a pro tree, or any tree for that matter, is watch the bottom bulb, not the top bulb.
One thing that helps me on a pro tree, or any tree for that matter, is watch the bottom bulb, not the top bulb.
09-06-2011, 04:55 PM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
It still amazes me that you have never ran a 9 and strait crushed the 8. Not just an 8.9x off the trailer(apartment complex). But your first pass was 8.8x. Then to break off an 8.77 was just insane. Guy's , Bob is a natural driver! Well and the wing helped too. hahahaha. Congrats old man. Makes us old guys look pretty damn good.
09-06-2011, 05:58 PM
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thanks man. 
Don't need to put it on a flow bench, it's a stock head, just springs and retainers. Look close at the first pic, those are stock Honda cams. My personal opinion, fwiw, is that boost compensates for a lot of weaknesses elsewhere. Head being one of them. Spent the head money on a better block.
Truly though, this setup is absolutely maxed out. Not in a dangerous way... just maxed out.
I'm actually debating leaving the head as is, and running a smaller turbo. It's still going to nose over at 9k plus, but it won't get to 10k in 4th as quickly. I bet it runs very similarly. but I'll be better off with a quicker spool on the line for a more consistent bracket race package. I dunno though, just me thinking out loud.
I have another opinion, don't take apart a good running engine to feed your ego. Your ego is not your friend. ...lol... Right now, I want to get some consistency into it, and slow it down a bit to like solid 8.90's, adding more consistency. Like I said, I have to bracket race this car, it's not heads up around here.
Don't need to put it on a flow bench, it's a stock head, just springs and retainers. Look close at the first pic, those are stock Honda cams. My personal opinion, fwiw, is that boost compensates for a lot of weaknesses elsewhere. Head being one of them. Spent the head money on a better block.
Truly though, this setup is absolutely maxed out. Not in a dangerous way... just maxed out.I'm actually debating leaving the head as is, and running a smaller turbo. It's still going to nose over at 9k plus, but it won't get to 10k in 4th as quickly. I bet it runs very similarly. but I'll be better off with a quicker spool on the line for a more consistent bracket race package. I dunno though, just me thinking out loud.
I have another opinion, don't take apart a good running engine to feed your ego.
Your ego is not your friend. ...lol... Right now, I want to get some consistency into it, and slow it down a bit to like solid 8.90's, adding more consistency. Like I said, I have to bracket race this car, it's not heads up around here.You know what I knew you were going to say it was a stock head
It doesn't but does surprise me that you can go 8.7s at 167I know the fastest MINI out there has gone 10.36 at 136 on a stock head and cam.
What a combo you and the Speedfactory boyz have built there proving the old saying;
Its not how much you spend, but how well you spend it.
09-06-2011, 06:34 PM
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That is just AMAZING! Congratulations to the entire crew.
Running 8's is not easy, but wow you just made it look like is a walk in the park.
Where is the video?????
Are you coming to the shootout?
Fernando @ Kings Performance
Running 8's is not easy, but wow you just made it look like is a walk in the park.
Where is the video?????
Are you coming to the shootout?
Fernando @ Kings Performance
09-06-2011, 07:59 PM
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wish you could have seen us jumping and yelling when we saw that first run. Even more when it went 8.77
09-06-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
I hope a company sees this and helps you get to the e-town race, this kind of consitency could win races for sure.
sick set up though I love seeing S300s putting 8s on the boards.
cheers
sick set up though I love seeing S300s putting 8s on the boards.
cheers
09-06-2011, 08:40 PM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
Nice to meet you Bob. Loved the car... and im all about the KISS approach. FANTASTIC what you did all day!!! Congrats, and Ill be in touch fro that SC 0 when yiou get them back in :O)
09-06-2011, 09:19 PM
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You know I'm damn proud of you Bob, damn proud. Mostly for sticking with it and not giving up when things didn't go as planned. 
I love that it's running these #'s consistently on a basic sleeved 84x89 motor. Just plain old off the shelf 9.0:1 CP's & Eagles, ITR cams in a stock B16 head, VictorX IM & 65mm TB, and a Bob Wagner S372R.
This build was only intended to be a reliable 600whp bracket car, nothing more. Things got a bit more crazy along the way, but she's doing real well for what she is.
BTW, the motor is making roughly 800-850whp @ 40-42psi. I'm of the opinion that we should not go too crazy with it, but rather just make a few minor changes to get it in the 950whp range and keep it just on the edge of the 8.50/180mph chassis cert. We don't want to ruin the car - just keep it fast, fun, and as reliable as possible.
If you want to go farther than that, just start with a new tube chassis car.
I love that it's running these #'s consistently on a basic sleeved 84x89 motor. Just plain old off the shelf 9.0:1 CP's & Eagles, ITR cams in a stock B16 head, VictorX IM & 65mm TB, and a Bob Wagner S372R.
This build was only intended to be a reliable 600whp bracket car, nothing more. Things got a bit more crazy along the way, but she's doing real well for what she is.
BTW, the motor is making roughly 800-850whp @ 40-42psi. I'm of the opinion that we should not go too crazy with it, but rather just make a few minor changes to get it in the 950whp range and keep it just on the edge of the 8.50/180mph chassis cert. We don't want to ruin the car - just keep it fast, fun, and as reliable as possible.
If you want to go farther than that, just start with a new tube chassis car.
09-06-2011, 09:49 PM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
you guys helpin me all the time, and when it was my turn to perform, I felt the pressure. And really wanted to put up some consistent numbers and we all did it. Now we can have fun again. Turns out all that 1/8 mile racing was a good thing for tuning a car... who knew?You know how I was able to drive the car on the trailer after the race? First time EVER. I'm not in the truck for 10 minutes, my wife calls, our water heater died and flooded our basement. FATE thought I was home, I was at the track and it missed me this time... HA HA!!!
Water heater and carpet replacement, heck that's NUTHIN!
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09-06-2011, 10:15 PM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
It was a good time racing against you in that 8.77 run. My poor little red 1G DSM running 10.30s was hopelessly outmatched in the Pro class. But hey, it was fun anyway!
I'll be in FIS at Woodburn though. Should be a lot more competitive there.
I'll be in FIS at Woodburn though. Should be a lot more competitive there.
09-06-2011, 10:22 PM
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Thanks man. I'm creepin up toward 50, still feel like I'm 16 though.
Appreciate that, means a lot.
We keep adding things to it. Now it's just over 2100.
Yea, and hurry up, baby needs new shoes! ;P ...lol...
You to man.
I suppose we're prolly both in the wrong class, neither of us is likely to hang with that 8.30 crowd. CRIKEY!, that's fast. I'd rather be in that field though. I think those kinds of guys are used to putting up a number are likely more safe about it. That makes you safer as well. A better combination. experienced guys, that have put up a number now and then, know when to let off and give up on a pass when it's just to sketchy. That's good.
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It still amazes me that you have never ran a 9 and strait crushed the 8. Not just an 8.9x off the trailer(apartment complex). But your first pass was 8.8x. Then to break off an 8.77 was just insane. Guy's , Bob is a natural driver! Well and the wing helped too. hahahaha. Congrats old man. Makes us old guys look pretty damn good.
We keep adding things to it. Now it's just over 2100.
I suppose we're prolly both in the wrong class, neither of us is likely to hang with that 8.30 crowd. CRIKEY!, that's fast. I'd rather be in that field though. I think those kinds of guys are used to putting up a number are likely more safe about it. That makes you safer as well. A better combination. experienced guys, that have put up a number now and then, know when to let off and give up on a pass when it's just to sketchy. That's good.
09-07-2011, 06:20 AM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
amazing. makes me want a sleeved block for my car. what fuel syetem and fuel is in it?
09-07-2011, 06:42 AM
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09-07-2011, 11:08 AM
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Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
congrats bob! Your showing everyone it's all about the short track and after people get that down the second half of the track will take care of itself.
