b16 build. will it touch 9's?
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b16 build. will it touch 9's?
wondering how my set up shall perform. would love some input.
b16 engine golden eagle sleeve***
wiseco 10:1
eagle
knife edge stock crank
either pro1s or kelford c's....degreed
skunk2 retainers and heavy springs
ferrea 2000 valves
ati race damper
victor x
skunk2 3" tb
thermal intake gasket
ls tranny
lsd
5th gear cuff
completion twin disk
s300 with coil pack
boost by gear
car has 1000lb springs in rear on cheap kyb suspension
all energy bushings
fullrace traction bar
extended trailing arms
24.5 slick with skinnys
gen2 6266 t4 1.82 I think?
top mount made by me
dual 44mm gates
downpipe
dual 044 pumps with sumped tank
-10 feed
2000cc injectors on e85
the car is a ek coupe with nothing but 2 seat a cage and dash.anything that can go is gone. whats the absolute max power you think itll make? whats a safe power where I can whip on it all weekend at
b16 engine golden eagle sleeve***
wiseco 10:1
eagle
knife edge stock crank
either pro1s or kelford c's....degreed
skunk2 retainers and heavy springs
ferrea 2000 valves
ati race damper
victor x
skunk2 3" tb
thermal intake gasket
ls tranny
lsd
5th gear cuff
completion twin disk
s300 with coil pack
boost by gear
car has 1000lb springs in rear on cheap kyb suspension
all energy bushings
fullrace traction bar
extended trailing arms
24.5 slick with skinnys
gen2 6266 t4 1.82 I think?
top mount made by me
dual 44mm gates
downpipe
dual 044 pumps with sumped tank
-10 feed
2000cc injectors on e85
the car is a ek coupe with nothing but 2 seat a cage and dash.anything that can go is gone. whats the absolute max power you think itll make? whats a safe power where I can whip on it all weekend at
Last edited by hondacummins; 01-15-2015 at 06:46 PM.
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
I wouldn't expect it to hold up very long making anymore than maybe 450-480 on stock sleeves. You have the makings for a pretty stout setup for sure. Could you push it to a 9 sec ET? In current trim I would have so unfortunately say not quite but again that's just my personal opinion. I see you needing some more chassis/suspension work before you hit that milestone, along with lots and lots of seat time which I do not expect a stock sleeve block to withstand at the power levels your talking.
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
shoot! I forgot to write it is golden eagle sleeved. I also have a css 81.5 block with k1 rods and wiseco 9:1 pistons. lsvtec would obv be better but it is not sleeved like the b16
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
Gotcha. Well for starters, i have heard nothing but amazing things about CSS equipped blocks and their ability to hold up to big power. Up to the 700hp or so range I would feel just as confident running CSS equipped vs a full sleeved block, so I wouldn't let that hold you back from building that LsV. I've always been a fan of displacement myself, so the larger bore block would be my personal choice even Sans aftermarket sleeves, but going back to the original post: a GE sleeved B16, even at only 81mm bore, with your mods and turbo selection should easily be able to produce well into the realm of what your looking for with appropriate tuning. Have you weighed your chassis yet? Without knowing your true race weight I'm just going to pull a random number out, but at 2200#s you could easily dip into the 9s with around 550+ whp and 450+ Tq. obviously getting to know what the car likes would be important as well, but just to throw out some general figures that would be a good starting goal to shoot for.
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
Oh and as far as MAX power, I would say that turbo should be good for up to 750, perhaps even more with a good tuner and boost specific oriented cam profiles. As far as what you SHOULD run around on, that would really depend on what fuel choice, timing and fuel maps etc. Personally I feel that in a FWD car anything over 400 is a bit too much for regular street use, but then there are plenty of hardcore guys running way more too so I think it really all comes down to personal preference and safety when it comes down to your tune.
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
My EG is Tunned on 93 pump making 418whp and 312tq for DD, will retune for track before summer on race gas to 700hp
For street use anything over 400hp is useless with street tires. Right now I got nitro gens 205/50/15 and 1st 2nd & 3rd just spinning tires and no Go. I'll be getting street drag radials soon and that should change things a bit.
Drivetrain...
81.5 bore ls golden eagle sleeves
Srp b16 forged pistons 11.3-1
gsr block gurdle
Eagle rods
acl race bearings
new oil pump
port and polished b16 head
ferra valves
Brian crower springs n retainers
buddy club spec 3 cams
aem cam gears
Aem fuel rail
skunk 2 intake mani
880 cc precision injectors
Aeromotive 344 fuel pump
custom built FaceTunned ram horn header
precision 6266 turbo w ported housing and billed wheel
Precision 39mm waste gate
tial 50 mm bov
aem Tru boost controller
S/F oil catch can
Stage 5 unsprung competition clutch
gsr Trans
For street use anything over 400hp is useless with street tires. Right now I got nitro gens 205/50/15 and 1st 2nd & 3rd just spinning tires and no Go. I'll be getting street drag radials soon and that should change things a bit.
Drivetrain...
81.5 bore ls golden eagle sleeves
Srp b16 forged pistons 11.3-1
gsr block gurdle
Eagle rods
acl race bearings
new oil pump
port and polished b16 head
ferra valves
Brian crower springs n retainers
buddy club spec 3 cams
aem cam gears
Aem fuel rail
skunk 2 intake mani
880 cc precision injectors
Aeromotive 344 fuel pump
custom built FaceTunned ram horn header
precision 6266 turbo w ported housing and billed wheel
Precision 39mm waste gate
tial 50 mm bov
aem Tru boost controller
S/F oil catch can
Stage 5 unsprung competition clutch
gsr Trans
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
My EG is Tunned on 93 pump making 418whp and 312tq for DD, will retune for track before summer on race gas to 700hp
For street use anything over 400hp is useless with street tires. Right now I got nitro gens 205/50/15 and 1st 2nd & 3rd just spinning tires and no Go. I'll be getting street drag radials soon and that should change things a bit.
Drivetrain...
81.5 bore ls golden eagle sleeves
Srp b16 forged pistons 11.3-1
gsr block gurdle
Eagle rods
acl race bearings
new oil pump
port and polished b16 head
ferra valves
Brian crower springs n retainers
buddy club spec 3 cams
aem cam gears
Aem fuel rail
skunk 2 intake mani
880 cc precision injectors
Aeromotive 344 fuel pump
custom built FaceTunned ram horn header
precision 6266 turbo w ported housing and billed wheel
Precision 39mm waste gate
tial 50 mm bov
aem Tru boost controller
S/F oil catch can
Stage 5 unsprung competition clutch
gsr Trans
For street use anything over 400hp is useless with street tires. Right now I got nitro gens 205/50/15 and 1st 2nd & 3rd just spinning tires and no Go. I'll be getting street drag radials soon and that should change things a bit.
Drivetrain...
81.5 bore ls golden eagle sleeves
Srp b16 forged pistons 11.3-1
gsr block gurdle
Eagle rods
acl race bearings
new oil pump
port and polished b16 head
ferra valves
Brian crower springs n retainers
buddy club spec 3 cams
aem cam gears
Aem fuel rail
skunk 2 intake mani
880 cc precision injectors
Aeromotive 344 fuel pump
custom built FaceTunned ram horn header
precision 6266 turbo w ported housing and billed wheel
Precision 39mm waste gate
tial 50 mm bov
aem Tru boost controller
S/F oil catch can
Stage 5 unsprung competition clutch
gsr Trans
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Re: b16 build. will it touch 9's?
Lose the LS trans and get a GSR trans. Stock sleeves will go 9's in a b16 depending on car weight. Local guy runs a b16 with moroso block filler in a crx making over 700whp. Best time he's ran is 10.1 with a bad short track. Once they get the car hooking it will go 9's all day
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