When to shift?
08-25-2004, 10:55 AM
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When to shift?
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My question isn't at what RPM to shift out at. I already know when to shift when I'm racing at auto-x. Anyways, I wasn't clear on what I asked... I wanted to know how fast you guys move your shifter down when changing gears. You can move it ultra fast, or at a steady speed.. what do you guys do? I just want to save my syncros from wearing out.
Modified by Understeer at 9:36 PM 8/25/2004
My question isn't at what RPM to shift out at. I already know when to shift when I'm racing at auto-x. Anyways, I wasn't clear on what I asked... I wanted to know how fast you guys move your shifter down when changing gears. You can move it ultra fast, or at a steady speed.. what do you guys do? I just want to save my syncros from wearing out.
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08-25-2004, 10:57 AM
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Re: When to shift? (Understeer)
You really need to have someone teach you how to shift. But its supposed to be a smooth transition. Don't let the rpms drop much. Just enough so that you are close to the next rpm range to be smooth.
08-25-2004, 11:00 AM
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Re: When to shift? (Sack Master)
I guess I should be more clear that I've been driving manual for several years now, so I don't need to be taught. However, I wanted to hear what you guys do. The car definetly feels smoother if I let the rpms drop a bit.
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Re: When to shift? (nyo91)
I usually rev it a little bit before I get into gear, so I don't bog.. I'm not sure if a cable tranny has anything to do with this because this is the only car I've daily driven that was a manual.
08-25-2004, 01:01 PM
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Re: (FlipSkater)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FlipSkater »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">shift fast!</TD></TR></TABLE>
08-25-2004, 01:04 PM
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why would you let the rpms drop? thats pointless to hold your foot on the clutch and wait for them to drop. if you revmatch and dont let the rpms drop it will be a smoother shift and is not hard on the synchros. i dont understand.....
08-25-2004, 01:13 PM
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Re: (94gsr_vtc)
Is it bad for the transmission like using downshifting as serious braking like my freind will b coming at a turn at like 40 and right b4 put it in second and let it out slow for like a brake...it works good but is it bad on the tranny?
08-25-2004, 08:13 PM
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Re: (Sack Master)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know people that have been driving manuals for years and still need to be taught how to drive them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahaha...so true
But back to the question at hand...shift without letting up on the gas pedal thats always fun and good for the car too
Hahaha...so true
But back to the question at hand...shift without letting up on the gas pedal thats always fun and good for the car too
08-25-2004, 08:17 PM
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Re: (Integra97Zeke)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Integra97Zeke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Hahaha...so true
But back to the question at hand...shift without letting up on the gas pedal thats always fun and good for the car too</TD></TR></TABLE>
I do this, it's called powershifting. Just leave your foot on the gas and get it into the next gear quick as hell. Only do it when you wanna haul *** though, I hear it's bad on the tranny. So I only do it while racing.
Hahaha...so true
But back to the question at hand...shift without letting up on the gas pedal thats always fun and good for the car too</TD></TR></TABLE>
I do this, it's called powershifting. Just leave your foot on the gas and get it into the next gear quick as hell. Only do it when you wanna haul *** though, I hear it's bad on the tranny. So I only do it while racing.
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Re: When to shift? (Understeer)
if you racing you want to shift at redline and you want to shift as fast as possible
for normal driving you supose to let the rpm drop to the proper rmp before you left the clutch out
for example if you going 4k rmp in 2nd going 35mph and you want to shift to 3rd your supose to let the clutch out at the rpm 3rd gear is at when going 35mph. if you do perfectely you dont even need to use the clutch to put it in gear. if you shift to fast the rpm will jerk down and shifting will not be smooth. if you wait to long to shift and shift too slow the rpm will jerk up and shifting will not be smooth.
for normal driving you supose to let the rpm drop to the proper rmp before you left the clutch out
for example if you going 4k rmp in 2nd going 35mph and you want to shift to 3rd your supose to let the clutch out at the rpm 3rd gear is at when going 35mph. if you do perfectely you dont even need to use the clutch to put it in gear. if you shift to fast the rpm will jerk down and shifting will not be smooth. if you wait to long to shift and shift too slow the rpm will jerk up and shifting will not be smooth.
08-25-2004, 08:32 PM
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Re: When to shift? (Understeer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Understeer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you suppose to let the RPM's drop and then shift?
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2nd gear at 5000rpm, clutch in, wait for rpms to drop? and then shift into 3rd?
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I am going to retract some of what I said.
If racing, take it to redline and shift as fast as possible without taking your foot off the gas. In normal driving, refer to the owners manual for the speeds to shift gears at. I use them for the most part, and it shifts very smooth. Just try not to let the RPM's drop too much. Shift quickly and work your clutch right and it will be smooth.
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2nd gear at 5000rpm, clutch in, wait for rpms to drop? and then shift into 3rd?
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I am going to retract some of what I said.
If racing, take it to redline and shift as fast as possible without taking your foot off the gas. In normal driving, refer to the owners manual for the speeds to shift gears at. I use them for the most part, and it shifts very smooth. Just try not to let the RPM's drop too much. Shift quickly and work your clutch right and it will be smooth.
08-25-2004, 08:36 PM
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Re: When to shift? (White GSR '01)
My question isn't at what RPM to shift out at. I already know when to shift when I'm racing at auto-x. Anyways, I wasn't clear on what I asked... I wanted to know how fast you guys move your shifter down when changing gears. You can move it ultra fast, or at a steady speed.. what do you guys do? I just want to save my syncros from wearing out.
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Re: When to shift? (Understeer)
Ill say do a quick shift keep ur foot on gas pedal full throttle and just clutch shift, clutch shift, clutch shift before red line.... 
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