00b18b

So i recently installed H&R sport springs, 16" rota slips on azenis and wanted to make sure i have even tread wear. I've read to zero out toe and having a little camber is fine but mainly toe is the killer for uneven tread wear.

so does this printout look ok to you guys.





Modified by 00b18b at 8:32 PM 6/14/2006


Modified by 00b18b at 8:33 PM 6/14/2006

.brian.

you need to make it bigger

00b18b

done

__oversea

looks like nice shop..i never seen those type of print out..lol

96civich22

camber kit

.brian.

you should be fine without a camber kit, as long as the toes stays close to zeroed out. i have about the same numbers as you.

00b18b

yeah thats what i figure..a little camber is good for handling purposes

-Todd-

Print out looks good, i've also never seen one of those.

shyboi4u

i have seen those done here. tire kingdom has those printouts...

mike9571

Your fine, green arrows mean the is going to be almost no wear. Red is bad

pieinthesky

camber is what wears the tire not caster... the camber is red... ie a need for a camber kit

mike9571

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pieinthesky &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">camber is what wears the tire not caster... the camber is red... ie a need for a camber kit</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Camber in red was before the adjustments. At the bottom of the printout is the camber adjusted. No need for a camber kit

Leo C

you need a little bit of negative camber for good handling. i have a camber kit and i still have about that much negative camber. you should be fine with that alignment. clean teg btw

00b18b

actually mike9571....that red one is the front and the bottom is rear...this is not a before and after reading...its a final reading

TURBODC4TEG

looks good how much did they charge?

shorto85

Why are you toed out in the rear? With it like that you will wear out the inside edge. I'm not used to looking at a printout from that brand of alignment machine.

00b18b

thats what im a little concerned about, the rears showing up like that but everyone says to zero out toe.....

mike9571

O sorry for giving false info

Vitesse

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Todd- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Print out looks good, i've also never seen one of those. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Same.

xXLiGhTsTyp3RXx

looks like typical camber wear.. but if toe's closed to 0 your clear nice print out..

Spec R

just because its in the green doesnt mean its automatically good...

whats up with the rear toe looking all messed up but the readings say its perfect?

Sijray21

your set-up is fine

camber in the front is a little more than stock, but that's a given if the car's lowered. You'll be fine with that camber.

camber in the rear is damn near perfect for a street driven car

Toe in the front is fine (this is what really affects your treadwear and abnormal wear). having the Toe in the rear set at 0 is usually not normal and is did upon request, specifically to people to bring their FWD cars to the track. It gives the car more of a tendancy to lose the back-end in a hard turn. I set this on my teg b/c i prefer this, but it's usually set with a little toe-in.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spec R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats up with the rear toe looking all messed up but the readings say its perfect?</TD></TR></TABLE>
the toe is not supposed to be 0, it usually has a little toe-in to stabalize the car

either way i think the overal set-up is fine.

problems occur with camber of more than 2* or excessive or abnormal toe settings.

00b18b

ok so you're telling me when people say zero out toe, its just for the front and not the rear? if this is correct what should i set the rear toe to be? factory settings(in the green area)?

Sijray21

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so you're telling me when people say zero out toe, its just for the front and not the rear? if this is correct what should i set the rear toe to be? factory settings(in the green area)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

generally speaking, yes. when people mean zero toe-out it's referring to the front. when people want a little more 'fun' in their car they'll go for 0-toe in the rear as well, it helps with turn-in and rotation of a fwd car. Having the toe in the rear set at 0 is fine though, i wouldn't worry about it since you've already had an alignment done, it's really not worth having another one done.

stock settings are between 0.05* and 0.10* (i believe this to be true, but someone can correct me if i'm wrong)

TunerN00b

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00b18b &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok so you're telling me when people say zero out toe, its just for the front and not the rear? if this is correct what should i set the rear toe to be? factory settings(in the green area)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, go ahead and 0 the rear toe. Honda specified some toe in in the rear, and you're now out of factory spec. You're also not at factory height, no longer have factory spring rates, etc...; so why have a factory alignment? Rear toe in will provide high speed stability, braking stability, and understeer. While the frist 2 are nice, the last isn't, and you'll get longer life from the tires with 0 toe all the way around.