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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:37 AM
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I used to think H22 swaps were the way to go....after seeing dozens of them perform on the track, i was very disappointed and now have lost respect for h22 motors in EG, EK hatch backs.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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Come to NY or NC.. Bring your car..
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tkHBseries &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I used to think H22 swaps were the way to go....after seeing dozens of them perform on the track, i was very disappointed and now have lost respect for h22 motors in EG, EK hatch backs. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Eh...it's mainly the drivers probably. The h22 is a torque monster and hard to drive, you gotta teach yourself.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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ours runs like a champ. we cant complain with 790whp
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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I was initially goin to go H22 but after seeing the track times i.e. 14.5 with 75 shots, 15.0 all motor, barely 13.99 turbocharged....i went with GSR and my trak time is 13.8 all motor!!! True that it does depend on drivers
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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man this kid needs to learn something, I mean those guys who are driving those h22 monsters they must suck
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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To me putting a h22 in a civic is like putting any other large 4 banger in it. The h22 in no way was ment to be in that chassi. Anyone see the thread with the guys whos frame is crackin? scary ****...
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gravy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ours runs like a champ. we cant complain with 790whp </TD></TR></TABLE>
790whp?! whats the setup on that?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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very....true! dont take me wrong guys, im not hatin on h22 swaps, I myself was a prelude fanatic back then. I was hittin 14.5 in a prelude all motor consistently. Just a lil disappointed at the almighty h22 in a hatch.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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yea, you'd expect a lot from a H22 in a hatch. i've seen people get into 13's in a b18c1 w/ bolt ons. i expected a H22 to be a little faster, but i've only seen 14's w/ bolt ons.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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are you guys nuts? i had a 93 cx hatch full interior with a stereo system

95jdm h22
m2b4 lsd tranny
act street strip

everything else stock

i ran a 13.1 @ 103 with slicks so dont be hating on h22's
and if you want a timeslip wait until i get home...lol
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tkHBseries &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very....true! dont take me wrong guys, im not hatin on h22 swaps, I myself was a prelude fanatic back then. I was hittin 14.5 in a prelude all motor consistently. Just a lil disappointed at the almighty h22 in a hatch. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You are hating on H22's just look at the Title of this thread<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jL iLLuZiOnz 9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea, you'd expect a lot from a H22 in a hatch. i've seen people get into 13's in a b18c1 w/ bolt ons. i expected a H22 to be a little faster, but i've only seen 14's w/ bolt ons.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The people you are seeing can't drive very well. Think of it this way, there's probably easily a 4 to 1 ratio of b18c1 swaps versus h22a swaps, that's four people learning how to drive their b18's for every one person learning the h22; there's a better chance those drivers are going to put down crazy numbers simply b/c the pure volume of them leads to those anomalies happenin . I've seen a h22/hatch with my own eyes get into the 13s with bolt ons.

How can you compare a motor that makes entirely less power all around (granted the h22 may outweigh the b18c by 40 pounds) and say that its better than the h22?

edited for a retardedly contradicting last sentence
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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whats your time with street tires? i'm not hating. just curious.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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i didnt say anything about weight, Dark.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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Lol, dammit. well you can't count my times b/c I'm not in a hatch and I was having electrical problems at the time. I was at 2900 pounds and I ran a 15 flat.

But like I said, I've seen them run 13s on 195-55-15 Michelin crap tires in a 2300 pound hatch.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jL iLLuZiOnz 9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt say anything about weight, Dark.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know, I was just pre-empting that comment that people tend to make.
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13.8 lsd ownz
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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haha i read up on the weights already. i never judged bad before i knew the facts.

13.8 nice . well, lowest i've read was 14.2
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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I would take the h series to lug around my em1 anyday over my poor little b16
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkKnight[DMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]

You are hating on H22's just look at the Title of this thread

The people you are seeing can't drive very well. Think of it this way, there's probably easily a 4 to 1 ratio of b18c1 swaps versus h22a swaps, that's four people learning how to drive their b18's for every one person learning the h22; there's a better chance those drivers are going to put down crazy numbers simply b/c the pure volume of them leads to those anomalies happenin . I've seen a h22/hatch with my own eyes get into the 13s with bolt ons.

How can you compare a motor that makes entirely less power all around (granted the h22 may outweigh the b18c by 40 pounds) and say that its better than the h22?

edited for a retardedly contradicting last sentence</TD></TR></TABLE>

Quite Simply, Gearing....
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xerox445 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Quite Simply, Gearing....</TD></TR></TABLE>

*Sigh* I think your missing the point of this post. It wasn't about gearing it was about h22 motors running like ****.

By the way, there is someone on here who crafted a prototype of an adapter for a b-series tranny to h22. I have to find it again, but sooner or later, that will be a non issue.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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ahhh who cares...

b18c1 turbo setup ownz j00!
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95DXPhiladeph &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhh who cares...

b18c1 turbo setup ownz j00!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Think you can make 400whp on a stock block b18c?
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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we got some kid here that has a h22 coupe, and it pretty quick when a good driver is behind the wheel but the kid couldnt outrun a stock cx civic. they must be hard to drive i assume (assuming cuz i never drove one yet)
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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somebody on here is making almost 300whp on a D series stock block. might be possible, anything can happen.
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