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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Default jim fab people i need your help.... is this thing bent?

i bought this jim fab off a guy on honda tech, for the moment will remain nameless, but today when i went to install it, it didn't bolt up on one side.
my conclusion is that the bar is bent. i basically just want to make sure it is before i get really pissed off at this guy.
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over head shot



this side bolted right up no problems, the passenger side.



the drivers side how ever did not.


the one bolt went in but this is how much the other is off by



so whats the word? cuz i paid this guy close to what these go for new.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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You sure it's not upside down? Sorry, just a thought. I don't know how they mount.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Just from the pictures, it looks bent

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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take a look at the pics...thats **** is bent like a ****...
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Well comparing side to side it definately looks bent I would assume they would be equal sicne well the car itself is equal


EDIT here is even better comparisons between each end....

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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yes it def bent id be contacting this nameless honda-techer about a money refund
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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that one bolt is off by less than an inch... that part bends easy just put it in a vice, would take 2 mins to fix
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that one bolt is off by less than an inch... that part bends easy just put it in a vice, would take 2 mins to fix </TD></TR></TABLE>

ladies and gentlemen the man who sold me the bent jim fab crossmember.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elmalouno &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ladies and gentlemen the man who sold me the bent jim fab crossmember.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He should of told you about that.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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He should have, but I wouldnt think you'd buy somthing from someone with such a low post count.....

THAT TO ME USUALLY DOESNT MEAN **** and I rank on other people for acting so hot cause they have a ton of posts, but it does help in trusting someone, If I wanted to sell somthing bad and I knew about this site it would be almost to easy to sign on a different user-name have like 10 posts sell the **** and be done.

Dont think Im against you or anything you deserve your money back for sure......but I have to say shame on you for bad judgement....(this is all in reference to you not knowing this guy personally if so well then I have no right to say what I said, but if you never met this guy and this is what happened then Im sure you learned a valuable lesson.)

disregard what I just said, I suppose the dude does have vouchers.....but now it makes all the people backing him up look bad too and not trustworthy......
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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damn that's messed up.

refund it and just get a new one or save for the full-race.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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we are not done talking about this but so far all he has told me is that he can't understand what the big deal is, or why i want a refund.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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**** him up
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aLL MoToR eF cRx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">**** him up</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol. sorry that was just too funny.

hope you get it resolved... in a nonviolent manner

oh yeah, I took my crossmember off before and when i went to put it back on the next day, the bolts wouldnt line back up... i was like wtf?! ended up having to legpress the chassis while my buddies bolted it back in. If you still have the old crossmember, I would double check and see if the bolts still line up. just a thought.

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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bitch! betta have my money! ggggggggggg unit! muahahhaha!
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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If someone ever did that to me, id smash their car in with a bat.

Oh just bend it back, WTF are you stupid? Once you bend something you weaken it, and i bet that tubing on them crossmembers arent thin eaither....

Common, did you get it for like 40-50 bucks? if then i would heat it up and bend it back but if you paid a good buck and its bent... Id be pissed. I have no remorse for people like that *******.

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Nevin, be a man and refund his money. By the looks of it that thing was bent before shipped. You should also pay for the shipping back to you.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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my thoughts almost exactly and btw i paid 265 for this bent *** bar.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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if he dosent refund it he will never sell his **** on H-T again.

This is a GOOD place to sell stuff too.

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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o well people who check his vouches, parts for sale, and manifold for sale threads will find this link

Now make yourself look good by refunding the cash$$

-Eric
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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you bought it with no pictures?
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:09 PM
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BTW the guys car was in a front end collision thats why the bar is bent. And the manifold hes selling has no wastegate, snapped right off in the accident!

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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yeah i was just contacted by someone that told me the same thing about his car. HE told me that he had bent the bar to fit his car.
i wasn't going to post this b4 but now i am super pissed.

here is my conversation with nevin.

fastasleepCRX (7:44:42 PM): hey
fastasleepCRX (7:44:58 PM): i'd like you to look at some thing
fastasleepCRX (7:45:02 PM): https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=825648
fastasleepCRX (7:46:02 PM): i would like to talk about a refund.
n 3 v i n (7:46:09 PM): i thought it would bolt up ok
fastasleepCRX (7:46:24 PM): even though it was bent?
n 3 v i n (7:46:32 PM): it wouldnt be that hard to get a vice and bend it a little
fastasleepCRX (7:46:51 PM): yes well thats up to you man.. i'd like my money back
n 3 v i n (7:47:53 PM): really it wouldnt be that hard to bend it untill it lines up
n 3 v i n (7:48:06 PM): its off by like 1 inch
n 3 v i n (7:48:17 PM): or less than that it looks like
fastasleepCRX (7:48:20 PM): man... the fact is.. you sold me a bent bar.
n 3 v i n (7:48:37 PM): its not like it it bent in half
n 3 v i n (7:48:47 PM): it would work with a little effort
fastasleepCRX (7:49:01 PM): so if you want me to keep i want 100 back
n 3 v i n (7:49:11 PM): for?
fastasleepCRX (7:49:26 PM): for you selling me a bent bar.
fastasleepCRX (7:50:01 PM): otherwise i will gladly wrap it up and send it back after i get my refund
fastasleepCRX (7:51:26 PM): well?
n 3 v i n (7:51:51 PM): well i think you should get a vice and bend it the other direction like .5 inch
n 3 v i n (7:51:57 PM): would take 2 mins
fastasleepCRX (7:52:09 PM): i'll do that if i get 100 back.
n 3 v i n (7:52:19 PM): for what?
fastasleepCRX (7:52:21 PM): otherwise no deal... i want my money back
fastasleepCRX (7:52:39 PM): what the **** man u know how ******* pissed i am right now?
fastasleepCRX (7:52:50 PM): you never told me the ****** bar was bent
n 3 v i n (7:53:00 PM): i didnt think it would be a problem
fastasleepCRX (7:53:03 PM): i paid you nearly what a new one goes for
n 3 v i n (7:53:06 PM): its BARLEY off
n 3 v i n (7:53:13 PM): no you didnt
fastasleepCRX (7:53:19 PM): i would never have bought a bent bar.
n 3 v i n (7:53:22 PM): i paid 360 you paid 260
fastasleepCRX (7:53:34 PM): yeah well thats you i can get one for alot less
n 3 v i n (7:53:37 PM): your making it into a bigger deal than it really is
n 3 v i n (7:53:57 PM): have you tried at all to get it to work
fastasleepCRX (7:53:59 PM): ok good.. then refund my money and take your bar back and sell it to someone else
fastasleepCRX (7:54:10 PM): why the **** should i have to ?
n 3 v i n (7:54:23 PM): cause its not new
fastasleepCRX (7:54:36 PM): yes but its damaged
fastasleepCRX (7:55:26 PM): you never told me it was damaged when i was buying it.
fastasleepCRX (7:56:09 PM): you say you didn't think that i would have a problem with it.. ok thats fine, but i DID have a problem and now i want my money back
n 3 v i n (7:56:38 PM): its not that big of a deal man do you have the bar off the car?
fastasleepCRX (7:56:51 PM): its half on.
fastasleepCRX (7:57:05 PM): why? cuz IT DOESN"T BOLT UP
n 3 v i n (7:57:07 PM): take it off and look how easy that part moves
fastasleepCRX (7:57:25 PM): your not understanding me.
fastasleepCRX (7:57:58 PM): i NEVER would have paid you what i did had i known the bar was in a wreck and damaged
fastasleepCRX (7:58:06 PM): you lied to me
n 3 v i n (7:58:32 PM): i dont think so
fastasleepCRX (7:58:37 PM): what?
fastasleepCRX (7:59:00 PM): what don't you think?
n 3 v i n (7:59:06 PM): i never lied to you
fastasleepCRX (7:59:14 PM): how so?
fastasleepCRX (7:59:23 PM): you knew the bar was bent correct?
fastasleepCRX (7:59:26 PM): and i didn't
fastasleepCRX (7:59:31 PM): there for... you lied
fastasleepCRX (8:00:54 PM): are you going to work with me here or no?
n 3 v i n (8:01:02 PM): i dont know what to tell you
n 3 v i n (8:01:07 PM): your not working with me
fastasleepCRX (8:01:17 PM): how so?
fastasleepCRX (8:01:31 PM): i said i would keep it but you gotta gimme money back
fastasleepCRX (8:01:37 PM): you sold me a damaged bar.
n 3 v i n (8:01:44 PM): you wolnt even put in minimal effort to try and get it to work, just cause your didnt get a perfect product
fastasleepCRX (8:02:09 PM): perfect?
fastasleepCRX (8:02:15 PM): this is far from perfect
n 3 v i n (8:02:27 PM): its off by less than an inch.... and that part bends really easy
fastasleepCRX (8:02:38 PM): and how do u know that?
n 3 v i n (8:02:40 PM): i bet i could move it with my arms
n 3 v i n (8:02:49 PM): cause you have pics of it
fastasleepCRX (8:03:13 PM): i want to be compensated
fastasleepCRX (8:03:37 PM): i am not being un reasonable.
fastasleepCRX (8:04:03 PM): i don't even want to keep this thing.
fastasleepCRX (8:05:22 PM): well?
n 3 v i n (8:05:38 PM): well what ?
fastasleepCRX (8:05:44 PM): you want it sent back? or you want to compesate me?
fastasleepCRX (8:05:52 PM): those are the options
n 3 v i n (8:05:57 PM): I dont think I should have to
fastasleepCRX (8:06:15 PM): right.
fastasleepCRX (8:06:17 PM): ok.
fastasleepCRX (8:06:45 PM): your just another piece of **** scammer if you are gunna say that
fastasleepCRX (8:08:05 PM): ok well i guess thats where its going to stay then?
n 3 v i n (8:08:24 PM): well what do you want me to do
fastasleepCRX (8:08:32 PM): i already told you
n 3 v i n (8:08:36 PM): its spent
fastasleepCRX (8:08:37 PM): about 50 times
n 3 v i n (8:08:40 PM): i cant
fastasleepCRX (8:09:22 PM): so becuz you spent the money i gave you to buy your bent jim fab bar, i am **** out of luck?
fastasleepCRX (8:09:35 PM): does that seem right?
n 3 v i n (8:09:50 PM): i think your being kinda rash
fastasleepCRX (8:10:00 PM): i really don't think so.
n 3 v i n (8:10:03 PM): i can tell by the pics that it would eaily work
n 3 v i n (8:10:11 PM): and you got it for cheap
fastasleepCRX (8:10:30 PM): NO i didn't
fastasleepCRX (8:10:42 PM): i can get this new for under 300
n 3 v i n (8:11:02 PM): ok...
fastasleepCRX (8:11:08 PM): so yes... cheaper but not cheap
fastasleepCRX (8:11:49 PM): but when you compare buying a new unit and buying a bent one... i hardly think the bent damaged one is worth the 4 bux to save
fastasleepCRX (8:11:59 PM): 40
n 3 v i n (8:12:20 PM): dude bend it back, good as new
fastasleepCRX (8:12:32 PM): why is it bent?
fastasleepCRX (8:12:41 PM): what happened to it?
n 3 v i n (8:13:14 PM): it didnt line up on my car when it was new
fastasleepCRX (8:13:47 PM): and?
n 3 v i n (8:14:02 PM): i had to bend it a little so it would bolt up
fastasleepCRX (8:14:20 PM): so that is why it is bent?
n 3 v i n (8:15:04 PM): yea
fastasleepCRX (8:15:53 PM): well your car must not have been straight
n 3 v i n (8:16:04 PM): i know, it wasnt
fastasleepCRX (8:16:30 PM): yeah well my car is straight and i am not going to bolt a bent *** crossmember to it
fastasleepCRX (8:16:39 PM): so i want you to refund me
n 3 v i n (8:17:48 PM): its barley tweaked, its not like i sold you somthing that is garbage
fastasleepCRX (8:18:10 PM): man i am so tired of dishonest people.
n 3 v i n (8:18:58 PM): well i dunno man, i have to go to class il talk to you more about this later
n 3 v i n is away at 8:19:03 PM.

Session concluded at 8:19:29 PM
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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mannnnnnnnnnnnnnn this guy is a ******!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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I dunno, I've got two sides to it....

On one hand, there is my Honda-Tech perfectionist state of mind saying you're right he shouldn't have sold you it saying it was good when it wasn't.

But on the other hand, there is my DSM side saying you're a baby for not even trying. If you try to fix it and it works, so be it, maybe he'll send a bit back. And if it doesn't work at all, or is too soft because of the bend, then ask for big refund.

Asking for a huge refund and still keeping something that is perfectly useable if worked for a second or so just seems unreasonable.

So in the end... Hey give it a shot, save yourself some shipping costs and this n3vin chump some time, and just see what you can do, if it sucks, then yeah go for the big refund.
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