The "poor man's type r" ????
So I have been told that a B16A head on a B18C1 GSR block is worth the time and money spent? How does the B16A head flow better than the GSR head? Is this a safe exchange? How much power gain should I expect JUST swapping the heads. No intake, headers, or exhaust. Of course, in the future I do plan on getting these parts.
you need to change the pistons if you just put the b16 head on you will lose some comp. if money tight put in some pr3 or p30 you cant expect to just switch heads and see a big hp. gain and its safe to do.
The PR3 head has a bigger combustoin chamber than the P72 head. If you only switched the head, (BTW, you'd need an ITR or B16 intake manifold as the intake bolt patterns are different) you will lose that compression. I have pics somewhere, I'll try to dig 'em up. In addition, since the manifold change is necessary, the VTEC activation point with the GSR computer would be too low for the ITR/B16 manifold, you would lose some power in the 4500-5500 rpm range. I currently have a PR3 head with the ITR mani and GSR computer and am experiencing that.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kchungb17a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The PR3 head has a bigger combustoin chamber than the P72 head. If you only switched the head, (BTW, you'd need an ITR or B16 intake manifold as the intake bolt patterns are different) you will lose that compression. I have pics somewhere, I'll try to dig 'em up. In addition, since the manifold change is necessary, the VTEC activation point with the GSR computer would be too low for the ITR/B16 manifold, you would lose some power in the 4500-5500 rpm range. I currently have a PR3 head with the ITR mani and GSR computer and am experiencing that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Nice post man
Nice post man
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yeah seriously
i've been trying to gather info on this too as i'm on the fence between NA and boost...
Nice post man</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah seriously
i've been trying to gather info on this too as i'm on the fence between NA and boost...
To change VTEC. You need a VAFC (or whatever you choose for a tuning device). Get yourself to a dyno and tune from there.
Also, you don't NEED pistons. But if you want to raise your compression, etc. then you would want to change out the pistons. Its not needed though. There are other ways of raising your compression (expensive headwork
and or a headgasket, etc).
I would just go one step at a time. Figure out your goals and go from there.
goodluck......
Also, you don't NEED pistons. But if you want to raise your compression, etc. then you would want to change out the pistons. Its not needed though. There are other ways of raising your compression (expensive headwork
and or a headgasket, etc). I would just go one step at a time. Figure out your goals and go from there.
goodluck......
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xstalkrx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what do i do to get the VTEC engaging in the best spot? Is it possible to reprogram the GSR computer? </TD></TR></TABLE>
You can have it reprogrammed if it's OBD1. The VAFC is an option, but I've never seen anyone with one working correctly. It takes some dyno time and tuning, that's for sure. IMO 5700 would be a good spot for VTEC engagement with the single stage manifold. Katman does good ECU work, I recommend hitting him up.
And you don't necessarily have to be low compression to boost, you just need really good engine management! I love hearing: "I'm running 8psi boost on 11:1 C/R." That's some hard core $hit.
You can have it reprogrammed if it's OBD1. The VAFC is an option, but I've never seen anyone with one working correctly. It takes some dyno time and tuning, that's for sure. IMO 5700 would be a good spot for VTEC engagement with the single stage manifold. Katman does good ECU work, I recommend hitting him up.
And you don't necessarily have to be low compression to boost, you just need really good engine management! I love hearing: "I'm running 8psi boost on 11:1 C/R." That's some hard core $hit.
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