do most of you guys run a metal wastegate gasket? i had a paper (or whatever it is) that came with my tial wastegate, and it is all burnt up.. anyhow, where do i get a metal one? and the bolts keep coming loose, exaust leak all the way home

can i use locktite?

 

Use a Deltagate "fire-ring" gasket instead....

I also blew my "paper" crap gasket as well only on 6.5psi

 

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no gasket here

 

either use one of those metal gaskets, or just don't use anything at all.

for the bolts, i use those self-locking nuts, but not the ones with the nylon. It has a little lip on it that helps it lock onto the thread more. Or use lock washers

 

first off, what manifold are u running? well im using a rev-hard cast iron manifold and i used to have the problem of bolts coming loose from the wastegate. then i switched it to the Honda OEM studs from the head, exhaust ports. i added some lock washers and used the Honda nut with it, never had a problem since. im also using the gasket with the fire ring, never went bad on me.

 

its kinda gay that tial probably knows about the issues w/ their gaskets, yet they still don't supply their good WG's w/ the crappy gaskets instead of the better quality ones w/ the fire ring.. for tial on that..

 

Yeah just use some loctite, lock washers, and no gasket .

 

No gasket here too. Works fine.

 

my paper burnt too. don't use it, works just fine!

 

no gasket needed

 

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is it possible to burn up this metal gasket?

 

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I've never had any problems with the ones I've used. I guess they call it a "fire ring" for a reason.

 

I made my own out of a sheet of aluminum....work perfect!!

 

thanks for all the replys.. i think the flange on the manifold, maxrev, might be warped.. i'm going to check for sure.. . i have one of those firering type gaskets now.. . i'll try it out.. or if its not warped i'll try it without

thanks!

 

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thats what happen to my max-rev manifold -- the wastegate flange AND the turbo flange both warped, causing me to blow gaskets like crazy. i ended up removing the manifold, and sanding/grinding both flanges down so it was flat again. i used a top-notch(cant remember brand) gasket between the turbo and the manifold, and high temp silicon between the wastegate and manifold. havent had and problems since then. high temp silicon works really well, or no gasket at all like others mentioned works too.

 

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hmm.. maybe i'll get one of these.. i can get these not to come loose, but i get leaks on most tial connections.. time to get couple of these.

 

yea, my flange is warped.. how does that happen? when it was being made?

 

I am using no gasket with high temp silicon. Has been a perfect seal for nearly a year now. I drive nearly 120 miles per day, so I know that this combo works pretty well.

 

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can you give more details on that product? brand name and whre to get it? sounds cheaper than metal gasket

 

i think hes talking about the red rtv silicone paste at autzone or advance

 

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yep, thats the stuff i use.... works great...

 

can i the wastegate itself be warped? not the flange

 

possible..i had a maxrev mani myself and i had trouble with the flange also...if its warped enough you will always have problems with it. Only way to fix it is to "lap" it. Or you can send the mani back to maxrev...curtis is a great guy and stands behind his products.

 

thanks for the info.. i'm thinking about swapping out the whole turbo setup.. with a equal length manifold, 3" dp, doing research about building this motor.. . deciding on if i should switch to a 1.8L block