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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:01 PM
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anyone got some pics of their 88-91 civic's, or crx's with roll cages? I'm looking for some ideas of how to put in a 6 point cage and where to run the front two bars in my 91 hatch
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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i've never seen a car with a cage in it on this link
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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i have a 4pt bar...but that doesnt help u at all.....
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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4 point is beter than none lets see it
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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im running a 4 point too
ill get some pics this afternoon
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4ghatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i've never seen a car with a cage in it on this link</TD></TR></TABLE>

Look a little better next time then.

Travis and driven I hope you don't mind me posting pics of your car.













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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Travis and driven I hope you don't mind me posting pics of your car.
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Not at all

Here's an "after" pic, before net and padding:





All of these pics could have been found with the search.
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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It's on it's way to being far beyond this
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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dang..you guys can play monkey bars in there..and how are you suppose to get in the car? crawl? looks like a hassel everytime..
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4g_civic_si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> how are you suppose to get in the car? crawl? looks like a hassel everytime..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You just have to practice until you get it fast.
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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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i know this is gunna sound like a very noob questions, but i dont know much about roll cages. Are these ones that you ahve custom? Because i'm a very experienced welder and i feel i could do this myself, if that would be wise/safe? If anyone has made on theirself please let me know, and has anyone designeded one theirself? Or are these all custom designed? Also, would it be logical to have a roll cage that extended into the front of the car, just to protect what's under that hood? I've got a project CRX in the making, and this would be an added safety bonus
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicmark &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know this is gunna sound like a very noob questions, but i dont know much about roll cages. Are these ones that you ahve custom? Because i'm a very experienced welder and i feel i could do this myself, if that would be wise/safe? If anyone has made on theirself please let me know, and has anyone designeded one theirself? Or are these all custom designed? Also, would it be logical to have a roll cage that extended into the front of the car, just to protect what's under that hood? I've got a project CRX in the making, and this would be an added safety bonus
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The best bet for someone like you with no cage building experience would be to buy a "weld-in" kit which comes as prebent, uncut tubing built on a jig. This gives you the option of adding custom parts such as extra cross bracing and custom door bars (like mine) and you can weld the feet into large plates (like mine). This removes the "design" aspect, and you can use your welding skills.

As for extending past the firewall, that's illegal for most amature organizations other than drag, so check your rule book.
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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the pics will work once we-todd-did is back up so i don't wanna see any replies of "nice red x".
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Old Jul 14, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by travis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The best bet for someone like you with no cage building experience would be to buy a "weld-in" kit which comes as prebent, uncut tubing built on a jig. This gives you the option of adding custom parts such as extra cross bracing and custom door bars (like mine) and you can weld the feet into large plates (like mine). This removes the "design" aspect, and you can use your welding skills.

As for extending past the firewall, that's illegal for most amature organizations other than drag, so check your rule book.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the reply. What are some respectible weld in kits? and where could i order/look at them? Thanks a lot
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 04:41 AM
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 05:19 AM
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IM or do search under creator name "91CivicSi"
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=405863 more link inside of that one
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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What size turing and material are all of you guys using? I think that i'm capible of constructiong my own from scratch, but i've still gotta lotta research ahead of me. Also, about how think are the floors of our cars? The last thing i would wanna do is run something too hot
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicmark &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thanks for the reply. What are some respectible weld in kits? and where could i order/look at them? Thanks a lot
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Personally, I would recommend Kirk Racing (my cage is of their design). They bent the tubes, we did the welding. There are other options, but I don't have experience with those and I can't say for sure what forms of racing they are legal for (many cages are illegal for many forms of racing).
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Old Jul 15, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicmark &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What size turing and material are all of you guys using? I think that i'm capible of constructiong my own from scratch, but i've still gotta lotta research ahead of me. Also, about how think are the floors of our cars? The last thing i would wanna do is run something too hot </TD></TR></TABLE>

The tubing material/size is determined by the weight of your car and the rules of your class. My cage above is 1.75" x 0.120" DOM, which exceeds my min requirement for my rex by the SCCA GCR. As for cage building, there are a lot of resources on the web that will help you out. First, buy the rulebook for your class and make sure you understand the min requirements. Then get in touch with cage builders who also understand the rules and discuss your design with them. One such contact could be Walt Puckett (under the name metalworker on HT) who could offer some advice. You can also contact Kirk Racing. Remember, these folks build cages for a living, so if you're not going to buy from them, try to be efficient when you take up their time. It's only fair
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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i have never heard of DOM. what kind of metal is it, or does anyone know what it stands for?
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Old Jul 16, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicmark &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have never heard of DOM. what kind of metal is it, or does anyone know what it stands for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Drawn Over Mandrel. It is the new standard for the SCCA, along with moly.

http://www.copperweld.com/pdfs...I.pdf
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