Battle of Widebands? FJO or Techedge?

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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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Default Battle of Widebands? FJO or Techedge?

I have been researching and i cannot find out which wideband is better. I currently have Hondata in a Greddy Si Turbo kit. I want to get a wideband for tuning and just to see what my A/F Ratio is while driving.

On hondata's website they use the FJO for wideband tuning. But i remember a while back people were having issues hooking up the Techedge to the Hondata for the logging purposes. I might be switching over to AEM for the auto-tuning, but right now, i am sticking with what i have. Does the FJO have any better features than the Techedge? I dont think so. The only difference is the cost, correct?

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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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A friend of mine has Hondata with the Techedge, although it does not communicate with the ecu.
Another friend of mine has a Hondata with the FJO that is able to communicate with the ecu.
The main purpose of purchasing the FJO is to have the ability to connect it with the Hondata. Both units work fine, I have seen them. It all comes down to what you want? I do believe Techedge is comeing out with some software that will allow the ecu to log while the AFR, but it's not compatable with the Hondata or AEM.
Also you will not be able to Autotune with the Techedge!!!! So it comes down to what you want!
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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whats the issue with connecting the techedge to hondata?

it cant be that bloody difficult. i wonder if its a voltage skew issue, and hondata is configured only to work with the FJO output?

the new techedge v1.5 might address this sort of issue. i know the v1.0 has nonlinear output vs a/f....

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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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If I had cash to burn I would get FJO, like David!

I will be buying a Techedge. I have been trying to figure out how EXACTLY to hook it to my Hondata, and I think I have. You have to run a wire from the display connector (from Turismo and racerxadam, http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/info5301.htm) to the factory O2 signal pin.

You should be able to make the 1.5 work as your stock O2 by running another wire from the Data Acquisition port (pin 3, orange http://www.techedge.com.au/vehicle/wbo2/1v5/const.htm) to your stock O2 signal pin.

Then to run open or closed loop you just need to switch wires. Kinda sucks but affordable.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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Why don't somebody just call Hondata?????I heard they were pretty helpful.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:43 PM
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Also you will not be able to Autotune with the Techedge!!!! So it comes down to what you want!
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Falc0n uses the Techedge to Autotune with the AEM. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=316594
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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whats the issue with connecting the techedge to hondata?
I just remember from a long time ago, that when people put in the values for the Lamba, it would always forgot the values or the values or always off. I remember Dustin having these problems.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Damn..You got me on that one......I learn something new every day!!!!
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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i use techedge v1 and hondata and it works perfectly its soo simple to hook up jsut follow the digram's on the hodnata website + get a old o2 sensor plug.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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i use techedge v1 and hondata and it works perfectly its soo simple to hook up jsut follow the digram's on the hodnata website + get a old o2 sensor plug.
hmmm sounds like the problem is with the user and nothing electrical then
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 04:49 PM
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whats the issue with connecting the techedge to hondata?


I just remember from a long time ago, that when people put in the values for the Lamba, it would always forgot the values or the values or always off. I remember Dustin having these problems.
This has been fixed in V3 of the hondata software.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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This has been fixed in V3 of the hondata software.
Nice But i am not sure which software i have
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Hondata systems will work with any wideband that outputs a 0-5V signal proportional to airfuel-ratio.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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The End.
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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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motec wideband rocks / kool back lit green screen


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Old Jan 15, 2003 | 11:51 PM
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motec wideband rocks / kool back lit green screen


[Modified by SEFI8LOxCivic, 7:52 AM 1/16/2003]
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Old Jan 16, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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yes, i love stickers & big brand names!
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Old Jan 16, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Battle of Widebands? FJO or Techedge? (falc0n)

anyone know how long it takes techedge too send you a money request(too pay via paypal)..i placed my order and am still waiting...they e-mailed me back saying they could ship next week..but never sent me apaypalk request like they are supposed too..anyone know how long? thnx
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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Is this what comes with the v1.5 kit?Is this all thats needed?It said the cable to sensor and sensor itself not shown,but it is included correct?


Image above shows from left - Data Access cable, version 1.5 TE-WB unit and the TE-5301 display. Not shown is the cable to the sensor, and the sensor itself.

Should i just get the just this:

V 1.5 Package Deal 4.0 - TE-WB Unit with 4.0 m (~13') sensor cable and data acquisition cable & TE-5301 display (saving of $20).U.S. $330

Then all i have to do is get the actual sensor correct?


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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:04 AM
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you are correct.... but the sensor is back order everywhere arggggg I'm trying to find one myself.....

for the guy who hasn't received his paypal request... email techedge I did and mine cmae through and is getting shipped this week...
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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you are correct.... but the sensor is back order everywhere arggggg I'm trying to find one myself.....

for the guy who hasn't received his paypal request... email techedge I did and mine cmae through and is getting shipped this week...
call thepartsbin.com and get on the waiting list. you should be able to get a sensor within a month or so.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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whats wrong with napa???says 139 on there website and ships in 24 hours???also not 300 like likespartsbin last time i checked
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Why anyone would get the FJO over the Techedge is beyound me..... would you rather spend $291 and then say $130 for a total of $421 for a complete wideband setup? Or would you rather pay $700+.....

Since its understood BOTH work with hondata..... I don't see the arguement here at all anymore Tech-edge all the way, I love it.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Battle of Widebands? FJO or Techedge? (keebler65)

Why don't you guys try your local Honda dealer. Just call them and ask for part# 36531-P07-003. I got mine for 140$ in just two days.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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What car does the O2 sensor need to come from?
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