Let's keep this to a simple debate please.

c/r = 10.6:1 stock. You can do a thinner headgasket to bump it up a little.

You can do headwork, and whatever cams, valvetrain, i/h/e ecu combo you want...

Let's see where this takes us fella's.

 

I hit 178whp with just Mugen USDM Header, AEM, and no p/s. Think I could have gotten 22 more horsepower with other bolt ons?

is your 'stock' motor allowed to have a stand alone ecu or fuel management as well? that would be good for a few more ponies.

 

Yes - I though I listed ecu as one of the mods... dfi, hondata, power fc, motec, whatever floats your boat...

Nobody want's to play this game, eh?

 

with good tuning, proper cams, and a Hytech or SMSP exhaust, i dont see any reason why this isn't possible.

 

this isn't exactly stock with the mods you are allowing. but whatever

 

Miguel SNIINS made 205whp (an even if is a jdm spec R , just a slit higher CR )
you can almost achieve that with a thin head gasket on the CR difference between the 2 types of motors .


[Modified by Spoon1, 8:05 PM 11/23/2002]

 

MPH or CPR (one of the two) got 200 WHP with Skunk2 stage ones, he had different pistons though, running 11.3:1. Not bad though considering how mild the cams are, he was also only tuning the cam gears, and vafc.

 

Header with 2.5" collector. Your choice.

Cat. Your choice.

2.5" diameter exhaust system, free of bottlenecks. Your choice.

Adjustable cam gears. Your choice.

Upgraded clutch + lightweight flywheel (doesn't add power, but well worth it anyway). Your choice.

Hondata ECU.

Dyno tuning.

 

It was MPH, Hes a badass! Somthing like 195 with stock compression!!

Give me about a month, I should yeild same results!!

eric

 

I got over 190hp at the wheels with i/h/e and toda spec b's and ericks ecu.

 

it is very possible!!!

but you will have to have a stand alone and big cams

 

All you need is a good I/H/E combo, a set of mild cams and a very good tuner!!

 

I'll play this game. Guys are already hitting 190whp with SMSP header, exhaust, and intake so it would see possible with tuning and a thinner head gasket.

 

well my friend Jason got more than 200 whp with stock B18c5 bottom end. With an HKS heder it will be even more.

http://www.superstreetonline.com/edi...&viewtype=text

 

MPH hit 200whp if i rember correctly.Badass

 

please define stock. i dont understand this thread. stock means what came on the car from the dealership. at least to me

 

thats what i'm saying.
i/h/e is still considered stock to me.

but he emphasized on the STOCK part since he capitalized it on the title.. yet he wants cams and the rest of the valve train just to begin with... ok.

 

ok, look at this thread, EP made 208whp on a JDM motor, with stock cams. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=150679 EDIT-"i just swapped out the the us pistons for the higher compression jdm ones" only internal mod


[Modified by paste, 2:55 PM 11/23/2002]

 

look at the thread your in now >>>USDM<<<

 

yeah i know, he has a USDM motor with JDM pistons
from the thread:

ok..im gonna try and remember every detail of mt engine...
jdm itr pistons
mugen headgasket
mugen outer springs( )
portflow inner springs
crower ti retainers
toda cam gears
spoon t-body
mugen oil pan
mugen cai
mugen header
spoon cat-jack
mugen twin-loop
b&m fuel riser
mugen ecu
apexi vafc

other contributing items:
vp 103
lightwieght tires and wheels (mf10's and hoosier r3s03)
lightwieght flywheel (jun)
lightwieght clutch (mugen)
lightwieght rotors (mugen)

im sure these last items can be argued over...but i believe they all helped because the engine still has to accelerate them..
oh yeah...thanks ED....

no p/s or a/c



[Modified by paste, 3:02 PM 11/23/2002]

 

For the cost of headwork, you could get 3 sets of spoon balanced pistons, i would just rather get the pistons.

 

key work---> STOCK. Everything you just listed wasnt stock. I dont understand. no way can you make 200whp out of a STOCK ITR.

 

stock block, meaning no mods done to engine block. valve train is open.
any mods you can do without removing or opening the motor.

 

this thread is confusing me, and I'm really bright.

 

oh ok...With my C's and valvetrain in i put 192whp with stock compression. i know that it is almost useless to use Cs with stock compression because it will lower your compression. what have the B's put down with stock compression????? anyone know?>


[Modified by NA ITR, 5:24 PM 11/23/2002]