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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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I just swapped an h22a into my Ek and my cel is throwing a map sensor code. So i figured id take a look at the sensor so i can begin to diagnose the problem but low and behold I cant seem to locate it. Im not very familiar with h-series so i was wondering if someone could please tell me where to look for the map sensor.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:39 AM
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It should be on top of the throttle body
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oneprelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It should be on top of the throttle body</TD></TR></TABLE>

no its not there
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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If it's not on the TB, it would have been mounted on the firewall behind the TB. So just get a MAP sensor and hook it up and mount it anywhere.

Is it running without a MAP sensor? I would be surprised if it was
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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it was running yesterday but today it wont start
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:40 AM
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So then you should have a MAP sensor somewhere.....someone could mount it anywhere they wanted as long as it was plugged in and had a vacuum line going to it. I would check around in the engine bay for it.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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I did the swap myself. The only sensor on or near the throttle body is the tps.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:20 AM
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So you have no MAP anywhere? Do you have the empty connector to plug into it?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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I had a couple extra plugs, one was for my o2 sensor and the other is this one below which i dont know where it goes. Its loacted underneath right next to my oil filter.

There are 3 wires:gree/black, brown/black, yellow /red


What is this sensor?


Then here is the top of my throttle body with the sensor on the left side. Sorry for the shadow.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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found a small pic of where map sensor is on the lude


http://images.sportcompactcarw...s.jpg
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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[QUOTE=hatchbkdrvr]

What is this sensor?


EGR
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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The map sensor uses the same type of plug as tps and egr right?
I dont have a loose plug for a map sensor so what am i supposed to do?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Im using a p72 so i guess the ecu isnt even looking for the egr. Do i need to plug the plug that is connected to the egr to a map sensor and mount the map to my firewall?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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In the picture of the throttle body theres an emty vacuum line that I'm pretty sure is for the map sensor. So for that throttle body looks you need to get a map sensor and hook it up to a vacuum hose to that line.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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yeah thats what im thinking too but which plug do i use?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 03:21 PM
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This should help you determine which plug is which


A1 brn Injector #1
A2 yel Injector #4
A3 red1 Injector #2
A4 grn/yel VTEC Solenoid Valve
A5 blu Injector #3
A6 or/wht HO2S heater coil
A7 grn/blk1 PGM-FI Main Relay coil
A8 grn/blk2 Shorted to A7
A9 blk/blu IAC Valve
A10 - -
A11 red2 EGR Control Solenoid
A12 blu/red Condenser Fan Relay
A13 blu/wht MIL
A14 - -
A15 red/blu A/C Clutch Relay
A16 wht/grn Alternator
A17 pink IAB Solenoid Valve
A18 - -
A19 wht Intake Control Solenoid Valve
A20 red/grn EVAP Purge Control Solenoid
A21 yel/grn1 ICM
A22 yel/grn2 Shorted to A21
A23 blk1 GND
A24 blk2 GND
A25 yel/blk PGM-FI Main Relay (power)
A26 blk/red VTEC Pressure Switch (GND)
B1 yel/blk PGM-FI Main Relay (power)
B2 brn/blk GND
B3 - -
B4 - -
B5 blu/blk To A/C Switch
B6 - -
B7 - -
B8 red/grn PSP Switch
B9 blu/red Starter Cut Relay
B10 orn2 VSS
B11 orn3 CYP
B12 wht CYP
B13 orn/blu TDC
B14 wht/blu TDC
B15 blu/grn CKP
B16 blu/yel CKP

D1 wht/yel Battery
D2 grn/wht1 Brake Switch
D3 red/blu KS
D4 brn/wht SCS
D5 - -
D6 lt blu or lt grn VTEC Pressure Switch
D7 lt grn/red Data Link Connector
D8 - -
D9 wht/red ALT
D10 grn/blk ELD
D11 red/blk TP Sensor
D12 wht/blk EGR Valve Lift Sensor
D13 yel/blu ECT Sensor
D14 wht HO2S Sense
D15 red/yel IAT Sensor
D16 - -
D17 wht/blu MAP Sensor
D18 - -
D19 red/wht EGR Valve Lift Sensor
D20 yel/wht TP Sensor
D21 blu/wht MAP Sensor
D22 grn/wht2 TP Sensor
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:27 PM
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i dont think those colors match up
I mated a civic dx harness with the h22 harness
Those colors dont sound right.

No one else has any advice?
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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i'm not 100% sure of its accuracy, i pulled it off another post on ht.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Its cool they could be right. Ill have to check my car tmrw when its light out.
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:54 PM
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searched for map colors and found this

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=723828

white--&gt; D17 MAP Sensor Input About 3v
yellow/green--&gt; D19 Reference Voltage About 5v With key on, engine off
green/blue--&gt; D21 Sensor Ground Less Than 1v
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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ok... nice.. i notice the info i found for my last post doesn't match exactly to the first pinout i found...

i'll look at my map tomorrow and see what color wires are going to the plug
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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Thanks for the help!!!
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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What wiring harness are you using?

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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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99 civic dx harness and h22 harness
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Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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the plug next to your oil filter might be a speed sensor. Your map sensor should be on the firewall behind the intake manifold
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