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Old May 1, 2006 | 01:53 AM
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what can i do to my stock civic, can you please help me on estimates on how much i will spend for the necesary needs for it.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 06:37 AM
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there are lots of things your can do... it depends on what you want to do. looks, speed, etc. look around and see what other people have done just to get ideas... people here and also look maybe at cardomain.com
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Old May 1, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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it all depends what you want out of your car. looks? performance? or both. what do you plan to do with the car. is it going to be an everyday driver or is it going to be for the track?
you just need to figure out what you want first. once you do that you can figure out what you need.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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That question couldn't be more vague. If you have a budget, I can give you ideas that'd be specifically based on what your final goal would be. Don't EVER look at Cardomain.com for inspiration, by the way. 99 1/2% of the cars on there are 100% worthless, gaudy, "riced" out, and basically the laughing stock of car enthusiasts (even the general public).

If you want a couple quick thoughts:
If you're looking to track the car, meaning take it on a race course or speedway, then you'll want to upgrade your brakes and suspension components to something more rigid.

On a Budget: RSX parts are a direct to low work swap, take the anti-sway bars front and rear, as well as the shock/spring components. Then, get the rear disc brakes off of a 4lug '01 - '05 Civic Si hatchback and swap them in. If you still need brake performance, buy Brembo blank rotors, Hawk pads, stainless steel lines from the wheelwell to the wheel, and some performance brake fluid.

If you're going for a "show car", you're at the wrong forum. People here aren't donating their car to useless modifications that make their car perform like crap.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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Search?

But okay, here goes. Based on my civic.

Step1: Wheels & tires. up to 17x7 preferably something light. 15x7 also a good light weight option. Good tires are key, search around the autocross forum for reccomendations. for us:205/50R15 and 215/40R17 work well. $900 - $1500

Step 2. RSX-s rear sway bar. New brakelines, motul 600(or similar), Good brakepads. IMHO the rear disc swap isn't that nessecery unless you do serious track work. $200

Step 3. Tein(NOT the dress up)/progress lowering springs + KYB AGX/Koni Yellow shocks. OR Tein SS. $1000 - 1200

Step 4. CAI, Catback exhaust(not much gain to be had here). Drivers seat(FIA approved) I have a Cobra Suzuka, sparco, and recaro are worth the money too. Seats are safety gear, pay to save your life because it probably will someday. $1500ish

Step 5. The K20(z?) out of the new Si. I think it's the best deal for swapping in the next few years. I regret only having a k20a2. CARB legal, type-r final drive and LSD, what more do you want? Rear disc conversion. $6000

Step 6. TODA engine kit, K header, exhaust. $2500

That will get you a (*^$ing fast civic for alot of money. IMHO, go trade it in, work some overtime and get a '06 Si, it's cheaper and the factory built it. Yes, a civic built like above will whip a new Si but there are alot of sacrafices.

To give you an idea tho, my stock DD EvoIX runs quite close to the civic with the stereo up, AC on and being cautious (I can't wad up my DD!). Not to mention I can drive the Evo without going deaf, rattling my fillings out or getting high centered on speedbumps.
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Old May 1, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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wow thanx u really helped me on how much i can spend
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Old May 1, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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actually all of u helped, im making my car fast its not for show, thats like a waste of money
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Old May 1, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drivingmylife &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually all of u helped, im making my car fast its not for show, thats like a waste of money</TD></TR></TABLE>

True-er words have never been posted.

As far as extreme budgeting goes, you could always go with a K20-R from a '01 - '05 Integra Type R. It'll be costly, but worth it for the extra 20hp, LSD, and 6-speed tranny you get. Rough estimate in pricing, would be $6500 - $8000 ballpark.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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driving my life, you and me are in the same dillema. I got an '03 EX about a month ago and i'm in highschool so dough is tight. So far i've put an alpine sub in cuz u gotta get it thumpin right? haha but performance wise, I just got my new intake today actually. its an AEM short ram but i'm putting a vstack on it and a massive K&N filter. Good alternative to cold are just becuase of the risk of hydro-lock wich is a whole nother conversation in its own. It'll get u decent boost and is not a ton of money( plus it sounds tight as hell haha) Also , I'm getting my new exhaust system next week. I'm goin with RS-R's EX-mag. Hopefully over the summer i'll have enough money to go turbo but only if my parents let me, haha.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:05 AM
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dang, good taste on the exhaust.. when i get enough money and done w/ everything else.. thats what i want.

what's a vstack, i have an AEM intake too, and if there's anyway to make it bettter, let me know!
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Old May 4, 2006 | 02:14 AM
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That's not entirely true. A short ram air intake won't yield much hp. It'll just basically increase the audio output of your car. Horsepower yields will only come with three things for our car, and they are as follows:
1. Thousands of dollars on N/A buildup (would take more money than it's worth).
2. A turbo kit.
3. An engine swap.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 05:45 AM
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yeah turbo it!
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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ya i was going to put sound system or more horsepower first onto my car. im not sure whioch i should put first
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Old May 4, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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The sound system that comes with the EX is fantastic, from a stock car's point of view. Go for more hp, if you ask me.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toyomatt84 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The sound system that comes with the EX is fantastic, from a stock car's point of view. Go for more hp, if you ask me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is very true. I have an EX with the tweeters mounted in the A-pillars, and theyre almost as good as the 6.5 Polk Component with tweeters that i mounted in the door panels. You can still hear them and at a very clear sound compared qwith the polks. Only thing else im going to do is put my sirius sat. radio back in, and maybe one of my kicker cvr 10's ive had for a while. Other than that, the civic is pretty nice sound wise stock.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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ya i noticed that too. but should i put in the cd/mp3/wma/ i pod ready on?
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Old May 4, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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A vstack is a velocity stack. It attaches to your filter and it gives you higher velocity on the intake as well as channels it to yeild more power. I've done some reserch on it and people rocommend it over a cold air. go to this post https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1608327. As far as the sound system goes, yea the EX's have a great system from the get go. The mids are good as well as the tweeters. I might put a new deck in if u plan on getting a sub though just for the sub controll. Also, most of the new decks today are ipod ready wich is really nice instead of buying those crapy i trips that dont work. my alpine deck was $200 and its got everything i could ever need.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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i have a jdm aero kit front and rear for slae bran dnew.....
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Old May 4, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drivingmylife &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya i noticed that too. but should i put in the cd/mp3/wma/ i pod ready on?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If I were you, the most I'd do is get a high quality deck or CD changer that could play MP3 CD's.

Even though Velocity Stacks can help flow in most situations, you won't net any HP or Torque gain from one, especially not in the EM2. A cold air intake won't yield hardly anything, either. So, I hate to say it, but prepare for the truth, your car won't gain much horsepower without a turbo kit or engine swap.


kuki22 Boo to you, sir. Thread hijacking is rude.
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Old May 5, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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I'm gunna have to disagree with you on that one. Putting a new intake with a higher performance filter will give your engin the clean are that provides for a higher combustion rate. i'm not saying that its a ton by any means,3-5 hp or so, but you dont need to buy a $2000 turbo kit or change your engine to get some more power out of your existing one. The same for a higher performance exhaust. If you get a new exhaust, it will open up your piping and relieve alot of the backpressure your current exhaust is putting on your car. Its like your engin trying to breath out of a straw. The bigger the straw, the easier it is.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 01:32 AM
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y would someone want to swap there auto trans with manual wen they couldve bought it manual at first, how much would it cost?
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Old May 6, 2006 | 03:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shorty5198 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm gunna have to disagree with you on that one. Putting a new intake with a higher performance filter will give your engin the clean are that provides for a higher combustion rate. i'm not saying that its a ton by any means,3-5 hp or so, but you dont need to buy a $2000 turbo kit or change your engine to get some more power out of your existing one. The same for a higher performance exhaust. If you get a new exhaust, it will open up your piping and relieve alot of the backpressure your current exhaust is putting on your car. Its like your engin trying to breath out of a straw. The bigger the straw, the easier it is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, maybe the term "any" was a little too unrefined. What I meant by what I posted, was that it wasn't something that I'd pay money for. The net hp gain, doesn't cover the dollar amount.

But, I will disagree with you on the exhaust setup. It's only good to a point. After about 2.75" you start degrading the flow characteristics, due to the fact that there's just not enough air volume being pushed out of the combustion chamber. Unless you have a turbo setup, there's absolutely no reason to go beyond 2.75" piping on your exhaust. And, I've seen 3" exhaust kits actually degrade hp / torque numbers, so too big can be an issue.
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Old May 6, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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I totally agree with you on the exhuast system. I'm only going with 2.5 inch. Any more than 3" does exactly what you said.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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K20a3 full swap ( Axles, subframe, tranny, ecu) K20a2 Cams, Full Exhuast, CAI. . . . call it a day

K20a3 Full Swap. . . Turbo'd. . . . call it a day

Extra's . . . Type - S Front & Rear Sway Bars, Good Suspension like Megan Coilovers for example.
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Old May 8, 2006 | 09:55 PM
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u think megan coilovers are good quality?
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