As the topic states, but I wanted to use a smaller turbo, like the one out of a SOHC civic kit and piece everything else. Itll spool up faster and def will keep me from going to extreme. Heres what my list looks like as of now, any additional info will be awesome...

SOHC turbo
Cast Iron Manifold
Intercooler
Piping
Wastegate
Blow Off
Timer
Injectors
Clutch

 

Dont forget about the down pipe, exhaust, Injector resistor pack (depending on the injectors your use, Custom Intake set up, You have to think wether or not your going to run internal or external wastegate, and most importantly you will need some kind of piggy back fuel management system, Make sure you buy a boost gauge so you know whats going on.

 

you don't necessarily need a turbo timer.....also you need something for management.

What is your budget and what are your hp goals?

 

get a sc-61. It's nice and small

 

what kind of car is this going on?? I dont have a clue what the hell a SOHC turbo is.....there are a million different turbos but you're probably looking for something like a T3 or small T3/T4......give us a better idea of what you're doing and how much you plan to spend

 

ok i have a 98 GSR, i ws lookin for about 200 at the wheels maybe a lil more, nothing too crazy, and i wanted to spend about 1500 if i pieced the kit together...thanx for the help so far...

 

i got a t25 and a sidemount intercooler off a g2 gst... hopefully i can get it to work

 

1500? i think what you're looking for is a used greddy kit possibly.

you're somewhat thinking in the wrong sense. let's clear up things a bit. i'm sure schister66 can help out too

you're looking to get 200hp (pretty simple with a gsr). you got pretty much the basics down of what you need: manifold, intercooler, intercooler pipes, wastegate, blow off valve, injectors, clutch, etc.

for your purposes, i would say get a greddy kit cause i'm thinking you want a street setup. nothing too fancy, just something that spools and gets you going? a 18G turbo would be suffient enough i think. the turbo will be internally gated, so it's safer and saves you some money from buying an external wastegate. the only thing i see wrong with the greddy kit is the downpipe and fuel management. you'll want to get some 450cc (dsms are pretty cheap) injectors and a good tune. you'll definitely want to upgrade your downpipe to at least a 2.5inch, even possibly a 3inch.

here's somethings to remember if you're looking to build a custom kit:

turbo...this has to be the most important i think. sizes vary. i would say a t3 super 60 would be the smallest i'd run. depending on if you want max hp or if you want a great street setup will determine the exact size of the turbo.

turbo manifold...depending on which one you go with, they're ok. but they're not the best. stay away from drag manifolds. i would recommend a tubular log manifold at the least.

intercooler...bar and plate designs are the best. you can find ic's from 130bucks to 300plus. ebay intercoolers work fine. i'm running one. remember that height and width make more of a difference than the length of the intercooler.

wastegate...2 types, internal and external. internal are on the turbo and external are off the manifold. i would really commend internal gate if you don't plan to up the boost past 9psi. it'll save you some money

blow valve...it's not really need, but they're good to have. who doesn't want the cool whoosh sound right?

turbo timer..it's not needed. just sit in your car for 30 or so seconds. i have one with my alarm, so it's cool. my turbo timer usually runs for 2minutes.

injectors...at least get RC440's, DSM 450's, or RC550's. with saturated injectors you'll need obd1 clips or rc clips for the injectors. obd2 clips won't work. on peak and hold injectors, you'll need to wire resistors or wire in resistor boxes. it's up to you on which one you want to do. (dsm injectors are peak and hold)

clutch...at least get a stage one. i would recommend something with a heavy duty pressure plate and a street disc at the least. i'm running an ACTION 2ks clutch on my gsr.

tuning...this is one of the most stressful things i think. in the nw, there's not too many reputable tuners available. they're pretty busy. so try to get a hold of a tuner and see what he can do for you. you can run a chipped ecu on crome/uber or get hondata.

do it right the first time, so you'll be satsified for a while

 

need more info what type of motor setup you have?

 

dont use a small turbo. U will hate it. U have NO gas milage

 

thanx undercover, what sizes of turbos are on the smaller side?
Y shouldnt i use the ones in the greddy kit, i think there 310's?
and y would i get **** gas mileage with a small turbo?

 

smaller turbos are like td04's and tdo5's...generally found on DSM's and on the SOHC greddy kit.

i forget what size the 18g turbo is on the greddy kit, but people make decent power on them. well past the 200's. but the greddy turbos are t25 flanged.

if you wanna get like a t3 turbo and get a log manifold or something. for a street application, a t3 super 60 would be great imo. t3/to4e for some more power.

310cc injectors are ok to run with a turbo setup for low boost. they're more likely to get maxed out and not be really power efficent.

you gotta understand that tuning plays a huge roll in turbo applications. how big your injectors are can effect how much power you make.

so are you looking for a turbo street setup with a quick spool or are you trying to go for a lot of power?

 

450cc's from a dsm will be overkill for just 200hp id say some 300cc's or keep stock ones they will be able to withstand 200hp and yeah get a good tune a tune is more important then the size turbo your going to be using.

 

i still say a tune is more important because it keeps your car from going boom. yeah you can run a blowzilla but whats the point. if he sticks with a smaller turbo lets say a .48 a/r t3 or a t25 and runs lets say a good 5psi his 200hp is there. but both are the most important things tuning and a turbo is mainly the biggest things you need to worry about.

 

saw some good suggestions, ideas here..just to throw myself into the mix.... a T3 from a saab will work great and can be obtaind cheap or a larger AR .61 unit from a late 80's thunderbird turbo coupe or even a T25 or T28 from an eclipse/ talon. I mention these because they are very easy to obtain at almost any parts yard, or already rebuilt, or off the net! the AR61 or 63 will produce some juice but require a little more on the support side. The T3 (like the one I put on last night ) will give you good performance and great for a daily drive...unless I really get on it, my gas milage hasent really suffered @ low to moderate boost...good luck dood, do your reaserch there is a ton of info out there
....of course..if its in the budget buy a kit (of good quality) ..hey its easy!

 

i think you guys are all missing a big part here....the OP is not you. he is only taking in advice. i don't seem to agree with all of your statements, but that's imo. hehehe


i think whoever posted about the sc61 was just kidding most kits do require a little trimming here and there. there are plenty of threads about install a turbo kit on HT. i think the hardest part might be tapping the oil pan.

anyways...sorry but size of injectors does matter....yes the size of the injectors must relate to the turbo, but bigger is simpliy better in most cases. come on, there's guys running 750's on 300hp applications. i'm running 550's and making out 279. the reason why i recommend larger injectors is because it allows for room to grow. i don't think the man will stop at 200hp. you'll definite upgrade parts and what not, so with bigger injectors you can seek to get some more power. injectors that run past 90% duty cycle run the chance of being stuck open or stuck closed. which we all know can lead to detonation. i think almost everyone can say that injectors are most efficient at 80% duty cycle. you can always tune the injectors down if they're larger.


i don't think the blowzilla is really in the OP's options. hahaha. 200hp isn't the easiest to get even N/A....look in the all motor forum and you'll see. it cost a lot of money to be fast and make power n/a. might as well go k20


everyone wants to run big turbos now. i don't know anyone who really doesn't but there's way to work around a big turbo. i would say one thing most people worry about is spool time. but you can work out a sc61 to spool close to a t3. all you gotta do is have a big downpipe and smaller ic pipes (like 2.25 instead of the usual 2.5). it's all about cfm


man doesn't matter what kind of turbo you get. if your tune sucks, bye bye motor. i'm pretty sure the OP hasn't really looked into f/i setups yet. once he does, i think he'll notice that most gsr put out well into the 250's, even 300's, and he'll change his goals. but what is most important is what he's searching for. for a street setup, small turbo...for a lot of power, big turbo. simple as that. he can worry about tuning after he figure out his real goal and gets his kit.

ghetto homemade kits don't impress me at all anymore. it's gotta look somewhat decent. lol but t3 turbos off saabs and the old fords are ok. i don't like using used turbos anymore after i got a few bads one. i rather dish out for a good new one.

 

since i recommened greddy earlier...i'll stick with it. if you search greddy in the force induction forum, you actually come out with alot of results.

most greddy kits on ls motors come out to 200hp.

here's a gsr on greddy blue box fuel management: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=658701

one on hondata s100:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=939095

here is a how to install a greddy kit:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=507830

i think greddy made a good starter kit. if you think you'll be satsified with 200-240hp, then go for it. if you don't have much resources and help to go turbo, i would seriously commend you either research and read up on it or get something pretty much put together for you already. if you don't have a lot of funding, i wouldn't recommend you going turbo right now....

 

Don't forget a Walbro fuel pump and I would suggest getting an aftermarket fuel rail. Some will say the fuel rail's not necessary, but it'll complement the injectors nicely.

 

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stock fuel rail is good up to 450hp

 

seriously thank you so much for all of the replies. i am not looking to go much more past 250 hp. my budget right now is varying, but i just wanted to start with a bunch of stuff on a list and one by one create a complete turbo setup. This way it isnt a $1500 kick in the nuts rather than a few hundred here and there. Plus this way Im not hurrying to get everything done and getting wrong parts and basically ****** myself hard.
I want a fast spooling small turbo setup.
I want to keep my P/S and A/C.
Its gonna be for street and some strip. Mostly for a project just to have a fun car to drive around. So if you guys wanted to list some part manufacturers and some prices that i should expect that would help out a lot... thanks again

 

whatever you do, just don't get an ssautochrome kit from ebay. the chances of having a good kit from them is very low. lol

but anyways...my greddy option is really good if you wanna choose that route for a complete kit. if not here's a walk through of what you can find on HT.

-tubular log manifold from an HT sponser or a fabricator on HT. (roughly around $250-300 275 seems to be the average.) the tubular manifolds are better than the cast ones. they're not proned to crack and just about all fabricators offer warantee on HT.

-downpipe, better get from the same guy as your manifold. that way it'll come to fit. otherwise you'll have to custom fit it after the install. (they usually run around 200-300. depending on the size you want. get 3inch )

-turbo: for a gsr, i would recommend you get a t3 super 60 .48a/r or a t3/t4 .48a/r .57trim (price varies depending on if it's used or new. i would recommend getting a new turbo. i would say 400-600)

-wastegate...most common external is the 38mm. i would recommend you getting an internal wastegate if you don't plan to turn up the boost much. it'll save you some money. (38mm external wastegates usually run 190-205)

- intercooler pipes, i would say get 2.25inch pipes. (i got all my piping done through CRPturbo.com...i don't think it's on his site, but you can always PM him on ht too, his user name is hulkhb. spoolinfab offers intercooler piping on HT too, his username is project dc2. price varies from 200-300, depending on if you need couplers, clamps, and shipping)

-blow off valve, any will do. even old dsm ones. they all operate the same, just different sounds. (price varies cause you can get some at the junkyard for 50 or buy new ones for more)

-injectors, for the price. i'd say get the dsm 450's and resistor boxes. it'll be cheaper than dishing out for RC440's or 550's. (dsms are usually 50, resistor boxes are usually 20 or so. RC's are 200+)

-clutch, get a good one

-tuner...find a good one in your local area.

that's what i'd get if i wanted a street setup, budgeted, and didn't need more than 250hp. it doesn't necessarily reflect the opinion of others. lol but it'll be a spoolin monster. lol the stuff i listed gives a little room to grow later if needed too

 

awesome, sounds good, def gonna start pickin some stuff up with each paycheck...

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

so something like this?

 

http://www.homemadeturbo.com

is a great site as well with some pretty good information.

note: These arent high dollar setups these are ghetto that some have been quite reliable actually

 

sweet man, thanks for the help