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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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So I started gutting the inside of my 95 eg last night getting ready for paint, and it looks like someone tried to chop the top maybe? I don't know, anyone out there have any ideas?
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So let's just say i'm not exactley thrilled.
Also, what are to original speaker mounts for the back? Mine are just mdf cutouts... \
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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That looks more like someone replaced the original roof with the red one. I wouldn't want to drive in a car like that.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ghetto Civic HX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks more like someone replaced the original roof with the red one. I wouldn't want to drive in a car like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ghetto Civic HX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks more like someone replaced the original roof with the red one. I wouldn't want to drive in a car like that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i second that. When did you get the car? Would that be covered under your local Lemon Laws?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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no it looks more like the car flipped over and smashed the roof in, so some idiot cut the top part of the car off and welded on the top part from another car
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZipTieGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no it looks more like the car flipped over and smashed the roof in, so some idiot cut the top part of the car off and welded on the top part from another car</TD></TR></TABLE>

Either way, that can't be good... when did you get the car? Did you run a carfax?
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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wow thats gotta get a little wet in the car wash are you sure that car is safe to drive is it a savlage title. be carefull
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Somebody tried to pull a Fast and the Furious and duck under a tractor trailer, ripping the roof off.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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somebody was driving around in a convertible
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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that blows
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:59 AM
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Thats ghetto as expletive
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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That's the hard way to add a sunroof!
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 12:26 PM
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Yup.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Yeah roof was replaced. As long as all the supports and body pannels are properly welded then I would not worry about a thing. May not have been a roll over could have been a tree branch or something. If the roof and the supports across the roof were severely damaged then that would be the only option. As long as all the windows and doors line up and seal properly without any leaks or excessive gaps , then the person did their measurements and probably completed the job properly as well. The whole car is a unibody structure and pieces are welded together. Hope this eases your mind a little.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Yeah kinda hopin that wasn't the case. Hmm... no, clean title, no, no carfax, ended up getting the car for like 2k after much haggling.
Also the passenger door inside is red... haven't checked driver door yet though, will tonight.
Everything fits fine, save pass door sags due to break in.
It looks kinda like crappy welds anyway, think it's safe? I'm taking the car in for body work anyway, maybe have them chack it out same time, but my only option on this rock is going to have to be maaco.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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I'd call the DMV and see what's up with the Lemon Laws in Hawaii, cuz that is not safe and they shouldn't have sold you that car without telling you that the original roof had been cut off! I would actually try to get rid of that thing ASAP!
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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People who post anything negative about it are just naive. It may or may not be good work but the only way to know is to go over it. If everything body wise lines up well, the windows dont leak and you dont here wind coming through them as if something isnt lining up properly then I wouldnt worry too much about it.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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I believe if you have had the car for more than a month I don't think you can take it back if you bought it as is, maybe even earlier. I could be totally wrong, I would check into that before it gets to late, hopefully that option is still available .
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Some people do this to add a sunroof to a car that previously did not have one. If done correctly then you should be ok. I personally don't like it and seeing as how you don't know why it was switched out I don't blame you for second guessing it.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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body shops do that sort of thin all the time. havent you ever seen quarter cuts?rocker panel cuts? if you dont know dont post.
i dont know about the structural integrity of that car but my shop does that stuff all the time. it doesnt look terible they should have covered the welds and used seam sealer but have a shop check it out
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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hmm.. im wondering, why he can't do that? i mean... yes, im aware that there are rule or law guiding this activity. but nonetheless, how about the hot rod?? u'll see so many chop-top roadsters, etc etc. if they can pass it, i believe honda can do also.... its just a matter of doing it right and properly.


correct me if im wrong here....
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF8IGHT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">body shops do that sort of thin all the time. havent you ever seen quarter cuts?rocker panel cuts? if you dont know dont post.
i dont know about the structural integrity of that car but my shop does that stuff all the time. it doesnt look terible they should have covered the welds and used seam sealer but have a shop check it out </TD></TR></TABLE>

Indeed, I got a tour of a body shop a buddy of my dad's owns. Things like this were the norm. As long as it's done right there really shouldn't be any problems.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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lmao maybe the car rolled over and they put a new roof
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 06:50 AM
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Yeah either way I think the car was in an accident of some kind. Whether it was a roll-over or a tree branch or what, I don't know. It looks like whoever fixed did a really nice job lining up everything perfectly, at least from the pictures that's what it looks like, I mean yeah the colors are screwy, but the welding looks good. Personally I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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the welds look good and solid. Looks like it was done professionally only b/c of the locations of the cuts. I do body work if your wondering. Time is money, if the guy was payed flat rate, he gets payed for the job, not the time. So, if he gets paid for 5 hrs of work and gets it done in 3 more money in his pocket. I only say this b/c he probably figured the inside is covered by the interior. Not to say that he took a short cut on the quality of the work only b/c he is liable if structural integrity is at risk. The work looks like it was done properly. He just didn't grind the welds down. I would grind them down, prime and paint them only to prevent rust to make it look more appealing. Although, unless its contantly in contact with water like if it was the exterior your only getting surface rust. Again hope this eases your mind a little. If your really uneasy about any body shop would be able to look at and tell you if the supports are structurally sound.
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