I was looking for some one who is selling them any idea's?
Dont mind me i must be off my med's i ment Quaife.


Modified by Rene M at 3:58 AM 3/8/2006

 

i think king motorsports sells them, from their website they fit the dx and not the si model manual rack only, weird huh, i didnt know they were different

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crx Jimmy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think king motorsports sells them, from their website they fit the dx and not the si model manual rack only, weird huh, i didnt know they were different</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, the hf is also diffrent from the DX and Si as well.??? strange...

 

QSR QUAIFE Quick-Ratio Rack and Pinion Kits ©2004 Quaife America - QSRThe QSR quick ratio rack and pinion gear set is perhaps the most underrated performance part around. The Quaife rack and pinion gears simply replace the existing pieces inside your stock steering rack housing. More rapid steering response is felt with an average of 25 percent reduction in ratio, resulting in fewer turns lock-to-lock: this translates into much quicker steering and turn in at the cost of a slight increase in effort. The QSR is a must for autocross, drifting, and track days.Designed to fit manual steering racks only. Not for power steering.
QUAIFE QSR Quick-Ratio Rack and Pinion Kits
LTL
Part Number
List
Honda Civic, 1988-91 LHD NEW
2.83
60.435.010K
$239.00
Honda Civic, 1992-95 LHD NEW
3.25
60.435.011K
239.00
Acura Integra 1994-2001 LHD NEW
3.25
60.435.011K
239.00
Toyota Corolla AE86 LHD NEW
2.5
94.435.001
199.00
Ford Escort Mk2 rack & pinion LHD
2.5
QSD1D1
169.00
Ford Sierra rack & pinion RHD
2.8
QSF9Z
179.00
Opel Manta rack & pinion RHD/LHD
2.5
QSF3B
179.00
Vauxhall Nova rack & pinion RHD/LHD
2.5
QSDT1
179.00
Volvo 240 rack and pinion, LHD
2.5 -2.85
QSF3J
199.00
VW Golf Mk1/Mk2 rack and pinion kits, LHD
2.9 -3.1
10.435.001-003
295.00
911 rack and pinion, LHD
2.5
40.435.001
395.00


http://www.quaifeamerica.com/s...n.htm

 

kingmotorsports sells them

 

how does the QUAIFE rack and pinion compare to a stock civic power steering rack as far as turns lock-to-lock go

 

I purchased my quaife rack from king motorsports....great shipping. If you are looking for a CRX or Civic you have to use and HF/DX donor rack, NOT the si unit. Upon recieving the unit, it's obvious quaife has ZERO to do with the actual production, and that it is all outsourced....but still a great piece non-theless. LTL is supposed to be 2.8, but I have read 2.3 from other sources. I will find out for sure and post my results this weekend along with a How-To....for the people who don't already know exactly "how-to" install one.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I purchased my quaife rack from king motorsports....great shipping. If you are looking for a CRX or Civic you have to use and HF/DX donor rack, NOT the si unit. Upon recieving the unit, it's obvious quaife has ZERO to do with the actual production, and that it is all outsourced....but still a great piece non-theless. LTL is supposed to be 2.8, but I have read 2.3 from other sources. I will find out for sure and post my results this weekend along with a How-To....for the people who don't already know exactly "how-to" install one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sweet keep us in the loop.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I purchased my quaife rack from king motorsports....great shipping. If you are looking for a CRX or Civic you have to use and HF/DX donor rack, NOT the si unit. Upon recieving the unit, it's obvious quaife has ZERO to do with the actual production, and that it is all outsourced....but still a great piece non-theless. LTL is supposed to be 2.8, but I have read 2.3 from other sources. I will find out for sure and post my results this weekend along with a How-To....for the people who don't already know exactly "how-to" install one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You sure about the rack not working in a Si rack? I had heard this and called Quaiffe directly and they said it works in the Si rack. I have the unit myself but haven't put it in yet.

And Rene, remember I have one already and you are welcome to see it.

 

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You sure about the rack not working in a Si rack? I had heard this and called Quaiffe directly and they said it works in the Si rack. I have the unit myself but haven't put it in yet.

And Rene, remember I have one already and you are welcome to see it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm looking at the pinion gears right now and can tell you it might work, but it's not going to work well. The quiafe is obviously designed to go into the HF/DX rack...i've got them both in front of me.

 

So Rene and I are going to try it on an extra Si rack we have on Sunday. I also talked to King and they said that they have only heard back from one person about the Si rack not working and they want to hear from us after this weekend. I would assume they've sold more than one so maybe it will work....but maybe it wont. King also confirmed that Quaiffe believes it will work on the Si. I must say that I find it strange that Quaiffe would only make it work for the DX/HX when the Si is by far the most popular application for the unit. If this truelly doesn't work my opinion of Quaiffe will go down significantly.

Help me out here, what leads you to believe they wont work well. Tell me what you're seeing please so I can look at it too this weekend.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blue Si #72 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So Rene and I are going to try it on an extra Si rack we have on Sunday. I also talked to King and they said that they have only heard back from one person about the Si rack not working and they want to hear from us after this weekend. I would assume they've sold more than one so maybe it will work....but maybe it wont. King also confirmed that Quaiffe believes it will work on the Si. I must say that I find it strange that Quaiffe would only make it work for the DX/HX when the Si is by far the most popular application for the unit. If this truelly doesn't work my opinion of Quaiffe will go down significantly.

Help me out here, what leads you to believe they wont work well. Tell me what you're seeing please so I can look at it too this weekend.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Here's the problem:



*stolen from tyson

The quaife is on the left, stock on the right. If you look at the stock Si pinion GEAR (not the whole assembly) it is longer. When you replace it with the shorter Quaife gear, about half of the pinion grabs the rack. You can refer to this thread for more info : https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1266695

 

Wow.....

Ok, after seeing that I went down to the local salvage yard and I'm getting a DX rack tomorrow. I think I came out well at $50 for the rack.

 

Wow... yeah i guess that wont work on an si..

 

heres more proof to convince you.

dx rack


si rack



they obviously arent the same casting.

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Yeah, the hf is also diffrent from the DX and Si as well.??? strange... </TD></TR></TABLE>
just want to make it clear the HF rack is the SAME as the DX rack. you can check the part numbers and the workshop manual. i dont know why ppl tend to think anything is different with the HF rack.


also, the 88 Si steering rack might be the SAME as the DX/HF rack. i think the progressive rate steering ratio didnt happen until 89. i havent confirmed if this is true i just noticed my 88 Helms manual doesnt state a different steering ratio for the Si, but my 1990 helms does, yet the online database shows the same part number. I havent bothered (remembered) to look under my own 88 Si to check. if this is true, i think this is possibly why quaife is confused as well. so what year do you have?

well, either way, just get it from a DX to be sure.

btw, youll want to replace the rack end bushing when you rebuild the steering rack.



Modified by Tyson at 5:00 PM 3/8/2006

 

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btw, youll want to replace the rack end bushing when you rebuild the steering rack.

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Amen. And don't forget to get the lock washer things for both sides of the rack, as you will probably destroy them in the removal process.

 

Sweet, good work and thank you from all of us. You saved a few of us a huge amout of time and trouble..

 

End links, washers, and anything rubber were already ordered and should be here friday. Times like this I love working for a dealership. Just walk into the next room and order everything I need!

Thanks again guys!

 

Here's the question I have: What is special about the 'progressive ratio' rack that the Si has? Is it quicker in the center or what? I figure a picture of the rack (of the R&P) itself would answer this.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spankjelly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I purchased my quaife rack from king motorsports....great shipping. If you are looking for a CRX or Civic you have to use and HF/DX donor rack, NOT the si unit. Upon recieving the unit, it's obvious quaife has ZERO to do with the actual production, and that it is all outsourced....but still a great piece non-theless. LTL is supposed to be 2.8, but I have read 2.3 from other sources. I will find out for sure and post my results this weekend along with a How-To....for the people who don't already know exactly "how-to" install one.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Endyn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
As I stated before, one of the modifications I'm making includes the installation of the Quaife rack and pinion gears to speed-up the steering. As it turns out, Quaife machined the pinion gears for use in HF and DX rack's....so it doesn't fit the Si rack. In the picture above, you can see the stock pinion in the center, with the (as-is) Quaife unit on the left. The rack rides exactly in the middle of the pinion, and you can see that the Quaife would only have partial gear engagement . To optimize the Quaife, placing the rack's gears in the middle of the pinion, I first shortened the shaft's end by exactly .085" (A). Next I machined a steel spacer, tapering the end that 's next to the pinion gear to insure that there'd be no interference with the rack's gears (B). The final machining operation (C) was positioning the new snap-ring groove that positions the spacer, retaining the bearing. I'm pleased to say that the steering action is very smooth. If you're getting the idea that there's no such thing as "bolt-on" parts, you're right. At this level, you've got to be prepared to each and every piece that goes into the combination....if you want it all to work trouble-free.


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At this level, you've got to be prepared to each and every piece that goes into the combination....if you want it all to work trouble-free.
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how about just using a DX rack, chief....

 

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how about just using a DX rack, chief....


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You can do that if you want too. Just showing there is an alternative, captian...

 

haha....Dane Cook that silly ****!

While we are on steering rack topics...can anyone give me a hint as to the proper ingredient and amount to lube the rack with and what it should all cover? I'm assuming something like a white lithium grease??? Anyway, just an overall procedure would help a lot....

 

any grease will do. coat all surfaces.

its not a constantly rotating part and barely sees any heat.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">any grease will do. coat all surfaces.

its not a constantly rotating part and barely sees any heat.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Last question: What exactly is the deal with the tensioner bolt thing on the drivers side? i.e. what does it actually do? From my understanding it is crucial in the performance of the rack, what process should I use to go about adjusting it?