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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Default B18 in EG ==> hood hits valve cover

WTF??!!?!? Absolutely every thread I've come across on this topic said that there aren't any problems. The motor is a '97 b18b1 and the car is a 92 eg8. I couldn't even close the hood and now it only closes (and still touches) because I did the gay-*** washer thing on the hinges. Now it looks like I was in an accident AND the hood still touches the motor.

Has anyone come across this? Is there a non-stupid solution to a rediculous problem? PS - I'm not adding a hood scoop...
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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thats really suprising, i've got a b18c and its kinda close, but it dosn't touch. and a b18b is shorter. did you use the b18 mounts?
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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You'll have to trim the hood skeleton where it hits.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'll have to trim the hood skeleton where it hits.</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes, and be careful not to ef up your hood. also ive seen people dent in the skeleton cuz it only barely touched. but it seems for you its not this way
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by littlegreenb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats really suprising, i've got a b18c and its kinda close, but it dosn't touch. and a b18b is shorter. did you use the b18 mounts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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driver's side - 95 delsol bracket and mount
ac - 90 integra bracket, 92 civic mount
tranny top - hasport
rear - 95 integra bracket, 92 civic mount
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by litterbox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You'll have to trim the hood skeleton where it hits.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Shitty deal. Is there a decent way of doing this so it won't rust?
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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I mean if u want u can jump on a bandwagaon or 2 and just space out your hood "cowl style" if you dont want to trim....

As for rusting just get some clear rustolem and spray where you cut.... makes life easy
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StreetEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I mean if u want u can jump on a bandwagaon or 2 and just space out your hood "cowl style" if you dont want to trim....

As for rusting just get some clear rustolem and spray where you cut.... makes life easy</TD></TR></TABLE>
Does this stuff work? It won't get baked off by the heat or flake off from cold-assed winter in canaduh?
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:40 PM
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my b18c in my eh2 hits in 3 different places!

the hood is dented out in one spot and the skeleton in 2 others. i just deal with a dent hood
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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did you adjust them right? the VC shouldnt hit the hood
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:03 PM
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i think the reason u are hitting is because u are using the Del Sol drivers side upper mount, if u switch to the teg mount u shouldnt hit. i thought the delsol mount was only for b16 and they have a shorter deck so maybe taht mount sits the motor a bit higher?

worth a try if u have 1 of those mounts

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:11 PM
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well in my case i just used whatever mounts came on the complete swap i got from HMO
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Mine doesn't hit at all.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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My LS/V hits in 2 places. The left corner of the cover plus the top of the dist. cap. I just hammer those areas in under my hood. No problems after.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 03:04 AM
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Clear nail polish &gt; Rust
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 03:51 AM
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once you cut the skelleton, just repaint the parts you cut. Bare metal=rust.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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i had a 93 cx with b18c5 used all gsr mounts did not even touch
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXified &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the reason u are hitting is because u are using the Del Sol drivers side upper mount, if u switch to the teg mount u shouldnt hit. i thought the delsol mount was only for b16 and they have a shorter deck so maybe taht mount sits the motor a bit higher?

worth a try if u have 1 of those mounts</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's pretty insightful. I don't have a DC mount laying around I could use and I would rather not buy one if it makes no difference...

For all the people with a B series swap, could you please post the following?:
-motor and year (valvecover is different on mine than some other LS ones)
-mounts used
-any clearance issues
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by transpar_nt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's pretty insightful. I don't have a DC mount laying around I could use and I would rather not buy one if it makes no difference...

For all the people with a B series swap, could you please post the following?:
-motor and year (valvecover is different on mine than some other LS ones)
-mounts used
-any clearance issues
</TD></TR></TABLE>

93 GSR
Car: 93 coupe
integra mounts
Hood: VIS
it barely hit because of the VIS hood, cut that part over the dist. and never had a problem.

Customers car i did:

96 LS
CAR: 93 hatch
Integra mounts
Stock hood
No issuses whats so ever.

Try picking up an integra mount.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 06:56 AM
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I dropped a B18C1 into a 94 coupe and using hasport solid mounts, it was fine. Plenty of clearance and no hitting. When we first did it, we had the wrong mount for the drivers side and used a DC mount and it was broken internally so it did hit a couple times then but when replaced with the hasport, it has been fine ever since.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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I have a 93cx hatchback and i put my gsr motor in it with avid racing motor mounts and it hits. on the far left corner away from the cockpit.. I have a cervinis ram air hood fiber glass i cut alot of it out. Some of it hit the radiator as well. Because i was using the long GSR radiator. instead of the civic shortie.

avid racing mounts on the driver side make you take out the studs that usually have big nuts that go on them. With this setup i had to use bolts that go down and the plates touch eachother. I would not recommend this kit to anyone. the tranny mount needed washers and it also bent the hell out of the plate on the tranny mount which came from avid.

You know how the mount is supposed to be form fitted for the tranny. The mount they give you is flat which makes it a pain in the ***. good luck.

I know alot of pople use longer bolts and a bunch of spacers to raise the hood a bit .. I personally think it looks kinda tacky but it works and its cheap.
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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which side does it hit?? can you put washer in between the mounts to push the motor down slightly?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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97 LS
93 Civic Si
Integra Mounts
No clearnace issues at all
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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99 GSR
93 Civic Sedan
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No issues
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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m y buddy has an itr in his eg, he has rub problems, dont know what to tell u

put washers in the motor mount bolts
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