I'm just looking for real life experiances here, no my friends brother said it sucks BS. I have a 92 d16z6 with a JRSC installed. I'v been using trial and error in order to get the fuel managment right. I started with an SMC map controller and have found this to be inaccurate and have very poor drivability. Next i tried using an adjustable FMU, 255lph, and 310cc injectors. I had great luck with this setup on a customers s2000 with a comptech kit. This car drove completely seemlessly. Anyway, after talking to jackson, they seem to think you can't use an FMU without some kind of electronic interface to boost fuel input at the onset of boost, this is why i'm have such poor transition from vacuume to boost. I know there are all kinds of DIY programs (crome, uber etc), but i'm not a computer engineer and can't fix bugs in code. I'v been debating s300, and very paitently wating for neptunes new version. But then i starting thinking about emanage. They can be had at very good prices second hand, and seem to offer similar tunability.
Sorry about the big story, just wanted to let you know where i'v been with this project. Bottem line, i'm looking for any real life experiance on using the emange to tune a very mild street setup with the jackson blower or turbo. Any info about this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Tim

 

IMO, there are much better options for management. Like i said.... IMO.

 

e-manage is a preprogrammed box designed for all applications... Right there is the problem, no two setups are the same. I haven't heard anything about the new BLACK BOX emanage, but I would just get hondata s100 with boost, find one in an eCU for cheap, it'll save you alot of hassle. You don't need the s300 as far as I can tell and as far as ranking the fuel management... HONDATA>emanage.

 

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Sounds like you've already spent lots of time dicking with various setups. Which brings me to to the next thing:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beyond-redline &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know there are all kinds of DIY programs (crome, uber etc), but i'm not a computer engineer and can't fix bugs in code. I'v been debating s300, and very paitently wating for neptunes new version.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Crome Pro is cheap, yet VERY easy to use, and for your purposes - bug-free. Uber is also great of you don't have some crazy setup, and then it only needs some time to work around issues. I'm running Uber on my EF, obd1, d16z6, 780cc injectors, wired to the narrowband simulating m-300 wideband. Works great, easy to tune & burn. I actually took just 5 minutes today to lean out my fuel-high map & install that chip due to the big temp increase today. Just 5 minutes - takes me longer to eat breakfast.

As long as you start with NO PROBLEMS with the car prior to installing crome or uber, you really shouldn't have any problems. Of course, there can always be cases where someone could make less power with DIY-tuning of Crome than a pro could do using just a FMU, FPR, and some skanky ignition circuitry. It really comes down to what you can do with what you have availible to you.


Based on overall solutions:
Emanage&lt;Hondata($$$)&lt;Uberdata&lt;Crome&lt;Ne ptune&lt;AEM

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastrunner &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">e-manage is a preprogrammed box designed for all applications... Right there is the problem, no two setups are the same. I haven't heard anything about the new BLACK BOX emanage, but I would just get hondata s100 with boost, find one in an eCU for cheap, it'll save you alot of hassle. You don't need the s300 as far as I can tell and as far as ranking the fuel management... HONDATA&gt;emanage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

sadly most people think this.. e-manage is a fully tunable device. you are thinking of the old blue box, which hasnt been around for ages.

id like for everyone that says emanage is crap to go do some research on it first.
you can tune the fuel and ignition timing with the emanage and you can also datalog pretty much everything. it also controls vtec.

yes chips might be a little better, but there isnt anything wrong with using e-manage. its perfectly fine.

 

eManage seems to be a good program. The problem is that you need all of the accessory harnesses and program to make it work as well as the other systems out there, and by that point it is just as expensive.

Now, there is a place for expensive fuel management systems, but not in my car. Give me an inexpensive option: Uberdata, Chrome, MegaSquirt, etc.

 

I have to agree. e-manage is very underrated. I've used several applications on e-manage, and works well, when the right personnel are working with it. Support for the program on a technical support level, is rather small, but whhen done properly, it does a great job. Your friends may say it sucks, simply because they don't know what their doing and that the approach to the ignition and fuel tables needs to be looked at rather differently.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">eManage seems to be a good program. The problem is that you need all of the accessory harnesses and program to make it work as well as the other systems out there, and by that point it is just as expensive.

Now, there is a place for expensive fuel management systems, but not in my car. Give me an inexpensive option: Uberdata, Chrome, MegaSquirt, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not really. all you really need is the ignition harness. i got mine for $15 shipped brand new. has alot of extra wires so you just use them for the injector wiring. but my emanage came with the kit so i already had injector wires. you can get the support tool software off the net for free and get a clone cable for $50 shipped. and besides used emanage's go for pretty cheap. ive seen some on here that included all the wires, support tool, etc. for under $200.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">eManage seems to be a good program. The problem is that you need all of the accessory harnesses and program to make it work as well as the other systems out there, and by that point it is just as expensive.

Now, there is a place for expensive fuel management systems, but not in my car. Give me an inexpensive option: Uberdata, Chrome, MegaSquirt, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Megasqirt Ftw.
atleast for my broke ***.