As most of you know this forum has been in the dumps for a long while...
My question is, There are 11, that's Eleven Mods for this forum alone and it still looks like crap. What is to be done about it?

I have a few options on the poll, Some of these might start some trouble, But I really don't care. This forum needs to be cleaned up.

You ask what are you talking about??
Just take a look at the topics on the first few pages and you tell me how many of those you get aggravated at when you open them up and there is nothing useful, complete BS info and how about those WAY off Topics..

I ask for the members to try to do something about this, But if this gets locked, deleted or me banned then I'll officially walk away now and never return. I am doing this to save a place I have come for 5, yea five years and If it continues on this path it will run it's self into the ground. If you haven't noticed many of the 2000-02 members don't even post here anymore or have reduced to to a random post once a month.

Mods- this is not a shot at you individually but as a whole.
One of the main posts that bother me is the F/S - WTB thread that has been stickied... Even tho it's clear as day right on the top people still post there items in new threads. WHY? To all the mods, can there be a rule that is actually enforced with a stricter punishment? Why not take the 30 seconds and move them into the stickied thread?

What ever you say,,,
What ever you think,,,
I'm posting this with the hope to make things better.
But only post in this thread to help, take things seriously.

If you don't care to, then let one of the best ITR and Honda resources fall into the *******.

Do what you like, but don't close this off to the members cause you have a thing against me. let this play out, where is the harm?

My rant is over.

 

maybe there's no interesting posts because A. there's not a lot of people owning R's out there (as opposed to any other integra), and B. because of the simple lack of numbers, there's just not enough questions to fill a forum with useful information.

this "problem" is not the mods' faults at all. the one good thing about these off-topic posts in the R section is that they do help to keep the R community alive on HT, and atleast the forum is moving, even if it's a little. We can't expect to have as many interesting topics as other forums due to this. it doesn't matter whether we have 2 mods or 100 mods, the quality of the posts in this forum will not increase, unless acura magically releases a new type r in high quantities..

 

I don't think there is anything wrong with this thread. There is nothing against it in the TOS as far as I'm concerned.

I feel alot of these threads stem from the wanting of 'instant gratifcation' which runs much much deeper in the structure of our society rather than just a HT only thing. I may sound like Im rambling, but give it a few moments and think about it. Everything is supposed to be more stream line, faster, instant and all this **** is driven into us to have answers 'right now'. This behavior happens all day long every day. So instead of using some search skills (HT, other forums, Google...etc.) and being responsible, people are looking for the easy way out, which precipitates into another pointless thread about something that could have been answered way way better by researching.

I could go on and on...but that's pretty much how I feel about it in a nut shell.

 

Bbasso is right. Many of the OG members are rarely ever seen here, and the regurgitation of ITR lore has gone a bit past stale.

The ITR has been out of production for 5 years now. The current 210hp RSX-S is the only thing that resembles an ITR that's left on the US market, and very few ITR owners have embraced it or replaced their cars with it.

Add in the harsh realities associated with the R (You still have OUT OF CONTROL THEFT, 8 years after the car was introduced to the US market) and you've got a forum that is heading nowhere fast. Half these guys might as well hang out in the road race forum, the other half are new (used) ITR owners and/or younger guys that have legitimate questions at times. But none of that seems to matter.

It never ceases to amaze me, I can spend a month without coming on here. Yet anytime I do, there is a stolen ITR thread less than 72 hours old, and the same condescending "know it all's" still lurking, hoping to find some newbie they can bash on, or take a point away from. Being "internet tough" doesn't always involve the usual "troll bravado". There are power drunk moderators all over the internet practicing bully tactics, h-t is not the exception.

As far as I'm concerned, the future of the ITR is grim. The car will be extinct inside of 5 years (the unyielding black market will make sure of it), the car will only be seen on racetracks, or in the hands of a few wise collectors thereafter.

 

I say that the ITR Forum is by far the most healthy of all on these boards.

There are alot of off topic and bullshit posts though, maybe there needs to be a mod who is completely bored and willing to be on here 24/7...?

Overall, I DO think that the members do a good job of policing the threads and almost self moderating or being the "elitist jackasses" that keeps alot of people out. This is how I see it working these days for the good of this ITR Forum.

Dont be so damn hard on yourself rob, its all about keeping things working the best for the good of us all...I think the suggestions are important once in a while.

 

The ITR forum IMO is one of the more useful forums. A lot of technical posts, and stuff thats applicable to real use is posted in here. It also helps that a lot of the ITR owners are realistic, however as of late theres been a lot of stupid **** going on and it is kind of annoying. I just tend to remember those people, and call out the stupid **** when I see it.

The mods do their job, and they do it well IMO. All the posts I've reported and mods I've talked to pertaining to this forum are very good.

 

well now you know who voted you off the island.

 

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As far as I'm concerned, the future of the ITR is grim. The car will be extinct inside of 5 years (the unyielding black market will make sure of it), the car will only be seen on racetracks, or in the hands of a few wise collectors thereafter.


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reminds me of a good condition GN or a delorean, except the causation for ITR "extinction" are thieves and their great buddies who are "legit" because they dont steal cars.

 

I'm undecided.

This forum is one of the healthiest ones, a high amount of activity for a limited run car, owners of other cars occasionally ask tech questions in this forum because of the knowledge base here.. these things are good.

Sometimes the flaming is just overdone. Yes, there are some threads that simply don't belong. Actually, I think more active thread locking and moving would help a lot. I notice that right now, there are a couple of locked threads on the first page, and I feel deservedly so. I say keep it up, on these threads that are so redundant, flame wars, or hopelessly off topic.

I think the ITR forum could be a little more civil while enforcing the rules. It just gets ugly too often.

 

i think a few more thread ****'s as moderators would be a good addition. not so much to "punish" the new comers, but the search function here is grossly underutilized, and so is the FAQ sticky on top with links to many a questions newbies come here and ask over and over as they are just

 

Dude, this is a public forum, not boot camp. There's always going to be a few asshats on a PUBLIC FORUM. There'll be plenty of off-topics, that's life. The Type-R forum runs fine IMHO The other forums need some serious help, possibly an IQ test before posting .

 

ever spend a day in the EG or regular integra forum?

 

EXACTLY, the ITR forum is healthy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 8k-red-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EXACTLY, the ITR forum is healthy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Personally, I would like to see more regulation over the threads being made. I would also like to see the forum guidelines posted back up, and possibly made a bit more strict.

 

i agree there is a lot bs, and flaming on the forum wich is bull ****, we need to keep it civil, and work on getting back to the true thing!! the love for our cars, and the constant effort to make them better

 

Honestly, after 5 years, there isn't much that can't be found in a search. There arent a ton of new products coming out for ITR's and anything that IS out has been discussed to death.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 8k-red-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EXACTLY, the ITR forum is healthy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

x2.

Rob your concern for the forum is touching but what can you expect? The car's almost ten years old now. It's cheaper and every part possible has been made for it. There aren't any new secret parts coming out, no tuners trying to stay ahead of the competition.

The forum needs to transition into a meeting place for guys that know and love the car, which many still do. So why are we bitching?

Don't reply to the stupid threads...they will die.

 

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Nice to see we're a modest bunch, with that being the leading answer. "Reorganize the forum if I can step up the ladder." How selfish.


Modified by Ross R at 2:03 AM 11/8/2005

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ever spend a day in the EG or regular integra forum? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No ****. When I gave my gf a 1996 Integra 4 door I dipped over to the Integra section for some cosmetic suggestions. WOW, what a mistake. My simple "front lip" thread turned into an absolute flame job to the point that it got deleted Trust me, I'm a dedicated ITR member in H-T so I know all about how to ask a question properly, search thoroughly, etc.

To the OP: I think, comparatively speaking, this forum strives to be all it can be. Once you've covered a car from top to bottom, rebuilt it inside and out, there is not much more to discuss. Tons of info has been available here WAY before I even owned an R. With the car being dated and out of production most aftermarket companies are targeting the newer models so almost everything that is available has been tried, tested and opinions have been stated. I feel I had the luxury of being a late bloomer so I could read up on parts instead of being the guinea pig.

So let the n00bies rant, slip up on the rules and talk about bullshit, show off their dyno #'s, talk about street racing, ask what intake is the best and is turbo better than a supercharger. Hopefully, in time, they too can become Jedi Masters Mods are just fine IMO.

Holy f**k what a rant that was

 

Ross for prez!

OG is the way!

-Victor

 

You guys are comparing other forums with this one.

Let me say a bit about that from my view.

This forum has always been higher quality than the other forums on here (most of them). Compare this forum in different times in its own history, not to other forums. It's not what it used to be. some have been complaining that its been in slow decline for a long, long time.

Ross has a good point that people should not respond to dumb threads, but it doesn't work. People respond all the time to all of them.

I think what makes this forum great is the friendships and community we have in here. Its not just with those that have met each other once or many times at expo, other events, etc, its with those that have respect for each other and a willingness to share and help. I know I haven't backed up what I just said 100% of the time, but I think what so many are frustrated about in here is that the sense of community is not what it once was at all.

Those that come to expo see that community. Some would disagree with me on that, but never is there a community without people who have their own hidden agendas, or just those people who will do anything to get under your skin no matter what. I can think of only one person that I got to talk to at the last three expos that I honestly have no interest in at all. ONE person. I am not friends with everyone I have met obviously, and I'm sure some people don't like me, oh well, but what have YOU all got from this community by way of this board? I've got some great friendships and experiences from this place. I feel safe saying I have a place to stay, party, and hang out in many places far from home just because i got to be friends with someone because of this common interest. which of course brings us all together here, right? not agendas, making a buck, and to somehow be supreme or 'more right' than another. some people just don't understand that community or don't want it, or like it. they are missing out. some of the so-called OG are even like this. it's not for everyone. but look around and most of the older members are probably here because of good times and lasting friendships.

i'm babbling, and im not sure anyone cares. but the sense of community is lacking sometimes. im guessing its because there is a bit of a changing of the guard with ownership and the fact that the newbs have not SEEN this community in action (like at an expo for example).

or as some others would say, the OG are rude and don't want to help anyone out because they are superior and more intelligent than everyone else.

 

H'mmm

 

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Then our precious OG members obviously think that proving something to strangers is more important than letting a pointless thread move off the front page.

 

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Uh. Who said it was the OG members who were responding to stupid threads? I didn't. i said 'members'. maybe some older members respond, but its not solely them, you know that. i also am not sure what this 'precious' stuff is. I use that term because others use it. I don't see them as superior but they have perspective that newer members do not as far as this forum goes. That doesn't make them superior, but sometimes a bit valuable i think.

i'm not sure how you extrapolated that little bit out of all i wrote.