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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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every time i roll down my windows they take forever to go down. the passenger side takes a little longer then the drivers side do i need to put grease on the rails or do i need new motors for them i got a 96 accord if tht makes any difference.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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This is just one of the shortfalls of our beloved Accords. Learn to love it
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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DesertHonda related in a previous post that often times a slow window in a Honda is ofter caused by dirt which builds up in the window channels, particualrly the rear most guide channel, which always catches &*^%* whenever the windows' open.
It's best to clean these with Brake Cleaner (stuff that smells like dry cleaning fluid) because it leaves no residue and contains no lubricants.
Why no Lubricants you ask? "Cuz they act as dirt magnets and gum up the works faster.
It's best to take off the door panel so that you can do it properly

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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Clean the window run channels as best as you can, then lube them with a light silicone spray. The best stuff in the world is called 'Shinitsu' grease that all dealers stock. But you have to rub it into the run channel with a small screwdriver, then run the window up and down a few times to work the silicone into the run channel rubber.
This is 'old school' so Desert Honda won't know about this cause he has only worked on Y2k cars and newer. LOL
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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ive seen alot of window problems come from the 5th generation hondas, i too own a 5th gen, a 1997 honda accord lx and 3 of my 4 window motors have already been replaced, the one that hasnt, goes slow as hell and often dies at times.. all i know to tell you is listen to hondadude and grease it, and i hope for you that it works, because if not, youll be paying a bit extra for a new motor
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Clean the window run channels as best as you can, then lube them with a light silicone spray. The best stuff in the world is called 'Shinitsu' grease that all dealers stock. But you have to rub it into the run channel with a small screwdriver, then run the window up and down a few times to work the silicone into the run channel rubber.
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Cheapest and most effective (aside from changing out the runners).

q-tips are your friend too
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Clean the window run channels as best as you can, then lube them with a light silicone spray. The best stuff in the world is called 'Shinitsu' grease that all dealers stock. But you have to rub it into the run channel with a small screwdriver, then run the window up and down a few times to work the silicone into the run channel rubber.
This is 'old school' so Desert Honda won't know about this cause he has only worked on Y2k cars and newer. LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>

yo dude i invented the Shinitsu grease . ......i used a **** load of it especially on those piece of **** del sol roof creak and water leaks ,and loobing all the weatherstrip as a matter of fact i still have a tube in my tool box
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Shinitsu? Isn't that Japanese for Monkey Snot?
I swear, everytime I hear it mentioned, I have this urge to offer "God Bless You!"
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Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P_Adams &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Shinitsu? Isn't that Japanese for Monkey Snot?
I swear, everytime I hear it mentioned, I have this urge to offer "God Bless You!"
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LOL LOL ,,,,,,,,,
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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How do you clean the channels?

I used Q-Tips with the Shin-Etzu grease, the q-tips were coming back black at first. After four or five q-tips they were "cleaner" and I had put a bunch of the grease in there.

The window really does work much, much better now. Before, it took roughly 17 seconds to go up and down (I had timed it), now it's maybe 7 or 8 seconds.

I'd like to go back and clean the channels correctly, let it dry, and reapply the Shin-Etzu grease.

For what it's worth, I asked a Japanese co-worker if Shin-Etzu meant anything in Japanese, apparently it's just the founders names or something like that. It's a chemical company out of Tokyo, I guess the name to them is like Monsanto or 3M to us.
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Old Oct 23, 2005 | 11:24 PM
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Can you buy this special monkey snot grease online? If I goto the parts counter at the dealer they will have this stuff??

Thanks

Edit...
I googled it and came up with the following.. it is expensive though, but whadda ya gonna do?

http://www.handa-accessories.com/odymaint01.html

http://www.hardtopguy.com/stor...age=1

I'm looking forward to windows that actually work..


Modified by s13_240sx_92 at 12:41 AM 10/24/2005
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Old Oct 26, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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&lt;bump&gt;

How do you clean the channels?
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Old Oct 27, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Heat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">&lt;bump&gt;

How do you clean the channels?</TD></TR></TABLE>

For the window channels that are rubber (the ones below aren't I believe) I would use rubbing alcohol to clean the channels with a qtip, let that dry then go in there with either silicone lube or that stuff desert recommended...as for the bottom channels I would just clean it out with a dry towel making sure to not get all grease that is already in there out and lube that up.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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wouldn't dielectric grease be/do the same thing?

I've sprayed mine several times, the latter using a heavier lubricant that foams, I guess they're just really cruddy.

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Old Oct 28, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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i replace the motor about once a year
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i replace the motor about once a year </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure I'll eventually have to do this, at least on the driver's side window. How hard of a job is it? How much does the new motor run?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LawlessOne &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wouldn't dielectric grease be/do the same thing?...</TD></TR></TABLE>I'd think so, the whole idea is that you are just reducing the friction of the channel rubbing against the window. The Shin-Etzu grease is "for idustrial use only", so maybe it's stronger or otherwise better? The cost isn't too bad, ~ $15 for a tube about the size of a tube of toothpaste.

Come to think of it, surely replacing the channel wouldn't be that hard of a job. Anybody have an idea of how much that would cost? And aux, if your channel is gripping your window so tight that you are burning through motors once a year, you might consider looking into whether new channels would help.
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