hey guys im thinkin about puttin a jdm h22a into my dc4 integra. im in oz and infact ive never actually seen it done over here although it most likely has. i thought id try talking to ppl who've done the swap b4 i go ahead and start blowing money. i've talked to performance shops over here and i've been told that it would mess up the balance of the car since its actually a bigger engine and also cause more understeer but i really dont understand that because the h22a has been put into so many civics over here without question and the integra is a larger car than the civic.

so anyway my point of this thread is just to find out these things:

1.what are the main things to worry about when doing the swap?

2. how difficult would this swap be to complete?

3.are there any sort of problems that could occur after the engine was put in?

4.what are the performance gains should i be expecting? i.e q/mile times? (i'm currently gettin a 15.5 q/mile so i wanna know if the performance gain is worth it)

 

the h series weighs like 80lbs more than a b.

heres a pretty good thread about this - https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1166033

 

thanks dude that helped

 

i dont know about 80 lbs. i have heard the difference is minimal in weight. now they have a plate which im sure you have heard about that allows you to bolt up and use hour B series tranny to the H motor. have not seen this done, but have seen artices tho.

h22 vtec with jdm itr tranny

would be sweet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR 1102 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know about 80 lbs. i have heard the difference is minimal in weight.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, last i heard was it cant be higher than 85lbs. which sounds to be a minimal difference to me. move some **** around, get rid of some useless ****, use some lighter **** and you tip the scale under weight anyway.

 

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well, last i heard was it cant be higher than 85lbs. which sounds to be a minimal difference to me. move some **** around, get rid of some useless ****, use some lighter **** and you tip the scale under weight anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats when it becomes time to remove power steering (might have to anyways), Air conditioning (probably have to also), and Relocated the battery to the back... you could easily remove/reposition the 80 or so lbs i'd think, but then again it shouldnt be too much of a noticable difference. Just pack a fat girl in the back seat and VIOLA! your car is balanced again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProjectLSVTEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats when it becomes time to remove power steering (might have to anyways), Air conditioning (probably have to also), and Relocated the battery to the back... you could easily remove/reposition the 80 or so lbs i'd think, but then again it shouldnt be too much of a noticable difference. Just pack a fat girl in the back seat and VIOLA! your car is balanced again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

to the first part - exactly. youre swapping an h22 in for speed anyway right? **** that extra ****.

to the second part - no fat chicks.

 

by looking at it pricewise..is the h22a like $2,000 and a regular b18c1 (usdm gsr) swap like $3,500...and thinking of it..its like 200 hp vs 170 hp??...why dont people do more h22 swaps?

 

You don't have to relocate the battery. In a teg, you'll probably lose AC. PS can be kept depending on your mounts. I find keeping PS way worth it. Let me know if you have any questions.

 

No AC...Car will be a demon.

Killer torque too

My friend ran a 13.9 with a stock H22 in his teg

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm samurai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">by looking at it pricewise..is the h22a like $2,000 and a regular b18c1 (usdm gsr) swap like $3,500...and thinking of it..its like 200 hp vs 170 hp??...why dont people do more h22 swaps?</TD></TR></TABLE>

im no expert, but theres a few issues ive heard of. including the thin sidewalls of the engine making boosting it more expensive than a b, the switch from hydro tranny to cable, the h22 tranny being trash, and ive heard rumor (and i say rumor cause ive heard it only once or twice) that they get crankwalk.

id say the two larger reasons are because people are fanatical about the b series and theres that whole myth about it being 200lbs heavier. its closer to 50lbs and ive heard its impossible for it to be more than 85lbs heavier.

oh and i almost forgot basic economics. its in low demand and since demand is low so is the price. if everyone did it like a b the price would go up, but they dont so its low.

so yeah, its cheap and powerful and kinda torquey for a honda. general consensus is its a kickass swap.

 

a northeast HT member is selling his H22 teg...looks like it was well done, and the thread has a few pics:
http://hondamarketplace.com/zerothread?id=1342423

He's asking only $6700 for it

 

and also, people will pay more for B's because they really are straight drop in.
with an H motor, there is alot involved. and since this swap is fairly new, there is not alot of information compared to B series swaps...

so people might not be comfortable swapping in an H when they know that a B is alot simpler.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITR 1102 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and also, people will pay more for B's because they really are straight drop in.
with an H motor, there is alot involved. and since this swap is fairly new, there is not alot of information compared to B series swaps...

so people might not be comfortable swapping in an H when they know that a B is alot simpler.</TD></TR></TABLE>

very true

 

Thanks for the plug cliffjumper you are ok in my book Mine made 195 in stock form although it is a Euro R not some regular h22

 

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thanks, and nice work on your teg
It should definitely be brought up in a discussion of h22 tegs.