which tire?
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which tire?
so another personal preference question, which tire's best for a built up 95 teggy? ive been looking over the MX, KDW, T1R, and the Sport Maxx. gathered some info on them (all for 205 400r17 tires), but wasnt able to find all i wanted to know on the manufacterors sites. heres what i got so far
Kumho MX: 84y, BSW, 23.5 diameter, 9 tread depth, 220/aa/a, 20 lbs, 8.3 on 7.5 section width
BFG KDW: 84y, bsw, 23.5 diam, 10 tread depth, 300/aa/a, 8.1 on 7.5
Toyo T1R: 24.3 diameter, 10 tread, 280/11/1, 19 width (coudlnt find side wall type or weight/speed rating)
Dunlop Sport Maxx: 84w, bsw, 23.5, 10, 240/aa/a.
kind of looking for something that i can use on the street and the track and is good for atleast rainy weather as well as dry. used to have Mirada Sport GTX's, but they got a bit trashed thanks to a neighbor trying to jack them (loosened all but my locking lug on all 4 tires, car started to shake pretty bad once i hit the freeway and had to wait a quarter mile until there was a place i could pull over, completely ruined the tread). wasnt too pleased with them anyway, they skid alot on wet road, even when just breaking.
Modified by xander1100 at 9:29 PM 8/4/2008
Kumho MX: 84y, BSW, 23.5 diameter, 9 tread depth, 220/aa/a, 20 lbs, 8.3 on 7.5 section width
BFG KDW: 84y, bsw, 23.5 diam, 10 tread depth, 300/aa/a, 8.1 on 7.5
Toyo T1R: 24.3 diameter, 10 tread, 280/11/1, 19 width (coudlnt find side wall type or weight/speed rating)
Dunlop Sport Maxx: 84w, bsw, 23.5, 10, 240/aa/a.
kind of looking for something that i can use on the street and the track and is good for atleast rainy weather as well as dry. used to have Mirada Sport GTX's, but they got a bit trashed thanks to a neighbor trying to jack them (loosened all but my locking lug on all 4 tires, car started to shake pretty bad once i hit the freeway and had to wait a quarter mile until there was a place i could pull over, completely ruined the tread). wasnt too pleased with them anyway, they skid alot on wet road, even when just breaking.
Modified by xander1100 at 9:29 PM 8/4/2008
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Re: which tire? (xander1100)
First, I'll repeat the advice I keep giving to folks shopping for tires on Integras, and then I'll give you some specific advice in bold.
One thing I didn't mention in there is top-of-the-line summer tires. Not many Integra drivers buy those, because they are more expensive. But they give better performance on dry pavement and wet pavement than the "category (b)" budget performance tires, yet still last a reasonably long time. The best of these is the Goodyear F1 GS-D3, which is available in the 205/40-17 size you're looking for.
No single tire is going to give you the best traction on dry pavement and autocross/track, the best wet traction, last the longest, etc. So you really need to decide what is most important to you.
If you want the very best dry traction and you don't mind so-so grip in rain or rapid treadwear, then get the Falken Azenis RT-615 ($96/tire in 205/40-17 at Vulcan Tire).
If you also care about traction in rain and/or how long they last, and you are willing to spend more for better performance, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 ($148/tire, less $50/set rebate, in 205/40-17 at the Tire Rack). If you are willing to accept slightly lower performance in exchange for a lower purchase price, consider the Fuzion ZRi ($73/tire at the Tire Rack) or Yokohama S.drive ($92/tire at the Tire Rack).
If you're wondering why I'm not recommending the tires you mentioned... The Kumho MX is a "category (a)" tire but it has a higher price and lower performance than the Falken Azenis RT-615. The BFG KDW is a "category (b)" tire but is overpriced relative to other tires; for about the same money you can get much better performance with the Goodyear F1 GS-D3, or you can get similar performance for a whole lot less money with the Fuzion ZRi or Yokohama S.drive. The Toyo T1R and Dunlop SP Sport Maxx are top-of-the-line summer tires but they're nowhere near as good as the Goodyear F1 GS-D3, even though they cost only a little less than the Goodyear.
Modified by nsxtasy at 1:33 PM 8/5/2008
Originally Posted by nsxtasy
Roughly 90 percent of the time, people fall into one of the following three categories:
a. People who want the maximum traction on dry pavement, and don't care about anything else. These are usually people who sometimes use their street tires in autocross or on the racetrack or in brisk drives on curvy roads. The best tire for such folks IMHO is usually the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is available in Integra sizes of 195/60-14, 205/50-15, 215/45-16, and 205/40-17, depending on your wheel size, and the Dunlop Sport Z1 Star Spec in 195/55-15. These tires don't last all that long - treadlife of 10-12K miles is typical - and they are only so-so in rain. But if you only care about dry grip, they're the bomb.
b. People who want good traction on dry pavement, but also want good traction in rain and also care about value (purchase price and/or treadlife), and who DON'T use these tires in snow (either it doesn't snow where they live, or they have separate tires or another vehicle for winter conditions). These are usually people who use their tires for everyday driving. The tires I most often recommend for these folks are the Kumho SPT, Fuzion ZRi, and Yokohama S.drive, which are available in Integra sizes of 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. I recommend the Yokohama ES100 in 195/60-14 for those with 14" wheels. All of these tires have very good grip on dry pavement, are excellent in rain, and last a reasonably long time (25-40K miles).
c. People who need to use the same tires in snow during the winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. These folks need all-season tires, which are a compromise; they have the flexibility to be used in a wider range of weather, but they're not as good in winter as true winter tires and they're not as good the rest of the year as summer tires such as those mentioned above. For these folks, I recommend the Kumho ASX in 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. For those with 14" wheels, I recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 195/60-14.
All of these tires are reasonably priced, and are the best you can get for your money in each of these categories, IMHO. You can get them shipped from places like Tire Rack, Discount Tire, and Vulcan Tire.
a. People who want the maximum traction on dry pavement, and don't care about anything else. These are usually people who sometimes use their street tires in autocross or on the racetrack or in brisk drives on curvy roads. The best tire for such folks IMHO is usually the Falken Azenis RT-615, which is available in Integra sizes of 195/60-14, 205/50-15, 215/45-16, and 205/40-17, depending on your wheel size, and the Dunlop Sport Z1 Star Spec in 195/55-15. These tires don't last all that long - treadlife of 10-12K miles is typical - and they are only so-so in rain. But if you only care about dry grip, they're the bomb.
b. People who want good traction on dry pavement, but also want good traction in rain and also care about value (purchase price and/or treadlife), and who DON'T use these tires in snow (either it doesn't snow where they live, or they have separate tires or another vehicle for winter conditions). These are usually people who use their tires for everyday driving. The tires I most often recommend for these folks are the Kumho SPT, Fuzion ZRi, and Yokohama S.drive, which are available in Integra sizes of 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. I recommend the Yokohama ES100 in 195/60-14 for those with 14" wheels. All of these tires have very good grip on dry pavement, are excellent in rain, and last a reasonably long time (25-40K miles).
c. People who need to use the same tires in snow during the winter as well as in moderate to warm temperatures the rest of the year. These folks need all-season tires, which are a compromise; they have the flexibility to be used in a wider range of weather, but they're not as good in winter as true winter tires and they're not as good the rest of the year as summer tires such as those mentioned above. For these folks, I recommend the Kumho ASX in 195/55-15, 205/50-15, 205/45-16, and 205/40-17. For those with 14" wheels, I recommend the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position in 195/60-14.
All of these tires are reasonably priced, and are the best you can get for your money in each of these categories, IMHO. You can get them shipped from places like Tire Rack, Discount Tire, and Vulcan Tire.
No single tire is going to give you the best traction on dry pavement and autocross/track, the best wet traction, last the longest, etc. So you really need to decide what is most important to you.
If you want the very best dry traction and you don't mind so-so grip in rain or rapid treadwear, then get the Falken Azenis RT-615 ($96/tire in 205/40-17 at Vulcan Tire).
If you also care about traction in rain and/or how long they last, and you are willing to spend more for better performance, get the Goodyear F1 GS-D3 ($148/tire, less $50/set rebate, in 205/40-17 at the Tire Rack). If you are willing to accept slightly lower performance in exchange for a lower purchase price, consider the Fuzion ZRi ($73/tire at the Tire Rack) or Yokohama S.drive ($92/tire at the Tire Rack).
If you're wondering why I'm not recommending the tires you mentioned... The Kumho MX is a "category (a)" tire but it has a higher price and lower performance than the Falken Azenis RT-615. The BFG KDW is a "category (b)" tire but is overpriced relative to other tires; for about the same money you can get much better performance with the Goodyear F1 GS-D3, or you can get similar performance for a whole lot less money with the Fuzion ZRi or Yokohama S.drive. The Toyo T1R and Dunlop SP Sport Maxx are top-of-the-line summer tires but they're nowhere near as good as the Goodyear F1 GS-D3, even though they cost only a little less than the Goodyear.
Modified by nsxtasy at 1:33 PM 8/5/2008
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