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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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ok i was lookin into some spoon wheels. simple and light and i like the styly. does any one know how much these might cost without tires?
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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just check out sportcarmotion.com..
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 06:00 PM
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you would save money and it would be cheaper if you just bought rota slipstreams.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Usually 500-600 a piece. And being magnesium, they arent much of a daily driver wheel. Pot-holes will kill them, and any type of repair is almost impossible.
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Old Jun 10, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Yah, you might as well save your money on your D16z6...since youre making it the most powerful single cam ever....MUhahhaUHahAHAHhaA
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 05:59 AM
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Spoon by desmond average price is $1900 to $2200
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joebroni &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Usually 500-600 a piece. And being magnesium, they arent much of a daily driver wheel. Pot-holes will kill them, and any type of repair is almost impossible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know they bend easy and all but I don't think they are magnesium. Forged and Made in Russia right (Regamaster Evos)?
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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well seein as how they are weak and some of the roads around here arnt the greatest i think i will go with the slipstreams. thanks for the help
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joebroni &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Usually 500-600 a piece. And being magnesium, they arent much of a daily driver wheel. Pot-holes will kill them, and any type of repair is almost impossible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have had Spoon wheels as everyday wheels on my DC2 ITR since 2000. They are very strong and you should not worry about using them on a daily driver automobile.

I don't know where you got the idea that you should post something like that, but it's patently irresponsible.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usdmken &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know they bend easy and all but I don't think they are magnesium. Forged and Made in Russia right (Regamaster Evos)?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are made by Desmond. So are the Regamaster. They do not bend easily, but they are extremely light.

It's possible to break <u>any</u> wheel with time and sufficient abuse, but the Spoon wheels are quite strong and you should not hesitate buying them if it's the style you like, you have a reason to want something that light weight, and you can afford it.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92’BluV-tecHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well seein as how they are weak and some of the roads around here arnt the greatest i think i will go with the slipstreams. thanks for the help</TD></TR></TABLE>

A Rota Slipstream is a much weaker wheel than the Desmond/Spoon wheel. You're going to break a Rota before you'd break a Spoon.

There is nothing wrong with Rota, nothing at all, but they are simple cast wheels made to look like other folks' expensive forged wheels. For what Rota typically cost, they are a very good buy, but don't think you're buying wheels that are as strong and light as the Spoon wheels.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92’BluV-tecHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well seein as how they are weak and some of the roads around here arnt the greatest i think i will go with the slipstreams. thanks for the help</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea money wise.. Only VISIBLE difference is the desmond sticker on the back and a little greenish paint on the real ones.
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They are made by Desmond. So are the Regamaster. They do not bend easily, but they are extremely light.

It's possible to break <u>any</u> wheel with time and sufficient abuse, but the Spoon wheels are quite strong and you should not hesitate buying them if it's the style you like, you have a reason to want something that light weight, and you can afford it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes they are made by Desmond but they are made in Russia. I am not here to argue anything about Spoon products since they are a reputable company here in Japan. I am just saying this from past experience with Regamaster Evos (Spoon SW388s) on the used market. A lot are bent and most of them you cant tell unless you check them out on a balancer. Buy these wheels new. They are lightweight and good wheels
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Old Jun 12, 2005 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TGG170 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yea money wise.. Only VISIBLE difference is the desmond sticker on the back and a little greenish paint on the real ones. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is <u>no</u> paint of <u>any</u> kind on Spoon wheels.

The finish is not the result of painting.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A Rota Slipstream is a much weaker wheel than the Desmond/Spoon wheel. You're going to break a Rota before you'd break a Spoon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but you can also buy 16 replacements before you reach the price of the spoons, but i digress
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Certainly.

Desmond-Spoon-Regamaster is not a logical purchase for most people.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have had Spoon wheels as everyday wheels on my DC2 ITR since 2000. They are very strong and you should not worry about using them on a daily driver automobile.</TD></TR></TABLE>

George, I just purchased a set of 16" SW388s for my EP. Can I ask what would be your tire size recommendation? I'm thinking of going with some Falken Ziex 512s. Thanks in advance.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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I have 16x7 +45 wheels on my EP3. I have Falken Ziex 512 in 225-40-16 and they work fine on a slightly lowered (Mugen Sport Suspension) car.

It's an oddball size, but seems to work perfectly.

Oh...and your avatar might have to go.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh...and your avatar might have to go. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, George. I hope the new one will suffice.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nebulous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Sorry, George. I hope the new one will suffice. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, it's certainly the right colours.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have 16x7 +45 wheels on my EP3. I have Falken Ziex 512 in 225-40-16 and they work fine on a slightly lowered (Mugen Sport Suspension) car.

It's an oddball size, but seems to work perfectly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a couple questions, how off is the speedometer reading with 225 tires if any? Also, is it safe to assume that 225s will provide substantial rubber to protect the wheel?
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 03:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nebulous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have a couple questions, how off is the speedometer reading with 225 tires if any? Also, is it safe to assume that 225s will provide substantial rubber to protect the wheel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

There are edges on the tyre to protect the wheels from rollover effects. However, if you live in a part of the world where you might crash through a pothole at speed, then low profiles tyres do present a problem. Even this driver has bent a wheel by crashing through a NoVA winter pothole at speed.

Going from 195-60-15 (OEM EP3) to 225-40-16 will cause your speedometer to go off a little bit. At an indicated 60 miles per hour, you will be travelling about 57 miles per hour.

If that bugs you, you can pick a slightly thinner tyre like 215-50-16, which would be almost right on the money.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 05:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nebulous &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have a couple questions, how off is the speedometer reading with 225 tires if any? Also, is it safe to assume that 225s will provide substantial rubber to protect the wheel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

from the faq: http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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yea it kinda goes like this the thinner the tire the crappier the ride but more grip its kinda like that i guess. and if you lower it with thin tires and now camber kit your in for a hell of a ride, let me tell you
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