Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (wadup)
The RE730 is an older tire and has been replaced by the RE750. Both the RE750 and the ES100 are excellent tires with good wet traction and handling capability. I give a slight edge to the RE750 for wet traction capability. Here is a test we conducted comparing the tires head to head.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...0.jsp
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...0.jsp
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (Clay@tirerack)
Cliff's Notes Recommendation: Get the ES100, with similar performance for a lot less money.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clay@tirerack »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a test we conducted comparing the tires head to head.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...0.jsp</TD></TR></TABLE>
That test shows that these two tires are very, very similar in performance, with many areas in which the ES100 is superior, and some others in which the RE750 is superior.
Here are the areas in which the ES100 beat the RE750:
- Noise comfort
- Handling
- Overall road rating
- Cornering stability - dry
- Steering response - dry
- Braking modulation - dry
- Overall track rating - dry
- Steering response - wet
- Slalom time - dry
- Slalom time - wet
- Lap time - dry
- Lap time - wet
- Average cornering g-force - dry
Here are the areas in which the RE750 beat the ES100:
- Ride comfort
- Handling predictability - dry
- Cornering stability - wet
- Braking modulation - wet
- Handling predictability - wet
- Overall track rating - wet
- Braking distance - dry
- Braking distance - wet
- Average cornering g-force - wet
So the performance is pretty darn close, on wet pavement as well as dry pavement (and I happen to think the most important areas are the ones in which the ES100 is better).
However, the really big difference is in price; the RE750 costs around 40 percent more (!) than the ES100:
195/50-15: ES100 $59, RE750 $86
205/50-15: ES100 $75, RE750 $103
So get the ES100, with equal performance at a much lower price.
(Furthermore, if you really care about performance regardless of price, then you're better off buying a top-of-the-line tire (like the Bridgestone S-03 or the Goodyear F1 GS-D3) than either of these tires.)
Modified by nsxtasy at 10:21 AM 8/15/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clay@tirerack »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a test we conducted comparing the tires head to head.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...0.jsp</TD></TR></TABLE>
That test shows that these two tires are very, very similar in performance, with many areas in which the ES100 is superior, and some others in which the RE750 is superior.
Here are the areas in which the ES100 beat the RE750:
- Noise comfort
- Handling
- Overall road rating
- Cornering stability - dry
- Steering response - dry
- Braking modulation - dry
- Overall track rating - dry
- Steering response - wet
- Slalom time - dry
- Slalom time - wet
- Lap time - dry
- Lap time - wet
- Average cornering g-force - dry
Here are the areas in which the RE750 beat the ES100:
- Ride comfort
- Handling predictability - dry
- Cornering stability - wet
- Braking modulation - wet
- Handling predictability - wet
- Overall track rating - wet
- Braking distance - dry
- Braking distance - wet
- Average cornering g-force - wet
So the performance is pretty darn close, on wet pavement as well as dry pavement (and I happen to think the most important areas are the ones in which the ES100 is better).
However, the really big difference is in price; the RE750 costs around 40 percent more (!) than the ES100:
195/50-15: ES100 $59, RE750 $86
205/50-15: ES100 $75, RE750 $103
So get the ES100, with equal performance at a much lower price.
(Furthermore, if you really care about performance regardless of price, then you're better off buying a top-of-the-line tire (like the Bridgestone S-03 or the Goodyear F1 GS-D3) than either of these tires.)
Modified by nsxtasy at 10:21 AM 8/15/2005
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (nsxtasy)
Thanks to both of you. I was buying some wheels with the re730's already on them so that's why I asked.
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (wadup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wadup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks to both of you. I was buying some wheels with the re730's already on them so that's why I asked. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Then use them and see how you like them. Good luck!
Incidentally, if you want to see how the RE730 did in Tire Rack testing a few years ago (against the Dunlop SP8000 and a Michelin), the test is still on Tire Rack's website here.
Then use them and see how you like them. Good luck!
Incidentally, if you want to see how the RE730 did in Tire Rack testing a few years ago (against the Dunlop SP8000 and a Michelin), the test is still on Tire Rack's website here.
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Then use them and see how you like them. Good luck!
Incidentally, if you want to see how the RE730 did in Tire Rack testing a few years ago (against the Dunlop SP8000 and a Michelin), the test is still on Tire Rack's website here.
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Yeah I am going to pick them up later today. I searched up some good feedback about them, but all of that was from 2002. H-T seemed to praise the re730's like they do azenis. Just wondered if these were still up to par with todays tires. I have never used any sort of good performance tire before so I don't know what to expect.
Then use them and see how you like them. Good luck!
Incidentally, if you want to see how the RE730 did in Tire Rack testing a few years ago (against the Dunlop SP8000 and a Michelin), the test is still on Tire Rack's website here.
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Yeah I am going to pick them up later today. I searched up some good feedback about them, but all of that was from 2002. H-T seemed to praise the re730's like they do azenis. Just wondered if these were still up to par with todays tires. I have never used any sort of good performance tire before so I don't know what to expect.
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (wadup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wadup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah I am going to pick them up later today. I searched up some good feedback about them, but all of that was from 2002. H-T seemed to praise the re730's like they do azenis.</TD></TR></TABLE>
But for different reasons. The Azenis (the RT-215) was praised for its superb dry traction and its low purchase price, which made it a great performance tire, particularly for autocross and track events; people were willing to overlook its short tread life and so-so wet traction. The RE730 was a budget performance tire, like the ES100 now is; it offered pretty good performance at a fairly good price, and was more suitable to daily driving (with good wet traction and tread life).
The ES100 changed that "budget performance" segment of the market when it was introduced (in 2003, I believe), because it offered significantly better performance at a bargain price. It's only within the past six months that truly worthy competitors (like the Dunlop Direzza DZ101 and Kumho Ecsta SPT) have been introduced. I see those tires as direct responses by their manufacturers to the ES100, as recognition that they need to do better to compete with the ES100 (but this is admittedly speculation on my part).
But for different reasons. The Azenis (the RT-215) was praised for its superb dry traction and its low purchase price, which made it a great performance tire, particularly for autocross and track events; people were willing to overlook its short tread life and so-so wet traction. The RE730 was a budget performance tire, like the ES100 now is; it offered pretty good performance at a fairly good price, and was more suitable to daily driving (with good wet traction and tread life).
The ES100 changed that "budget performance" segment of the market when it was introduced (in 2003, I believe), because it offered significantly better performance at a bargain price. It's only within the past six months that truly worthy competitors (like the Dunlop Direzza DZ101 and Kumho Ecsta SPT) have been introduced. I see those tires as direct responses by their manufacturers to the ES100, as recognition that they need to do better to compete with the ES100 (but this is admittedly speculation on my part).
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (nsxtasy)
Thanks. Found out one of the tires was a re750 and the rest were re730's. Would it cause any problem?
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Re: Potenza Re730's compared to ES100's (wadup)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wadup »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks. Found out one of the tires was a re750 and the rest were re730's. Would it cause any problem?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't worry about it. Normally, it's not a good idea to mix tires (different model tires on the same car), but the RE730 and RE750 are so close in performance characteristics that it shouldn't be a problem.
I wouldn't worry about it. Normally, it's not a good idea to mix tires (different model tires on the same car), but the RE730 and RE750 are so close in performance characteristics that it shouldn't be a problem.
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