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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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Hi,i'm kinda new here and new with Honda in general,i have a 99 impreza turbo Gt Ej25 block with too much stuff on it to list.
recently i purchased a 94 Honda hatchback with a Dx 1.5 motor and automatic transmission,after some work it became a b16 engine with manual transmission and now i'm thinking about making it turbocharged on a low budget.
i saw the "DIY filled b series block" and then i was like hey that closed deck idea is nice but why not go all the way?
why not just make an aluminum template(dont really know how thick it needs to be)put it inside the sleeve weld it on to the block and then just re-bore and resurface it?
its really not that difficult for me because i have all those machines at work and i do cylinder heads on a daily basis.
whole lot better then that whimpy block-guard and lets say more trust worthy then filling the block with epoxy.
any thoughts on the subject?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

whats your time worth to ya? cause you can get a block sleeved for a pretty decent price and not have to deal with anything but waiting to get it back.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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truthfully?
its not about the money its more about doing it alone,i have the time and I'm not really in a rush.
in general is it better then sleeving it and will it work well?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

At the end of the day you still have stock sleeves wich are only good to about 400hp...

IMO, its either sleeve it or leave it!
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Couldn't you just buy a metal block guard if you want something metal?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Originally Posted by 88Hatchy
Couldn't you just buy a metal block guard if you want something metal?
That would be an easier solution to what he is talking about.
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Originally Posted by grand champ
At the end of the day you still have stock sleeves wich are only good to about 400hp...

IMO, its either sleeve it or leave it!
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Originally Posted by grand champ
At the end of the day you still have stock sleeves wich are only good to about 400hp...

IMO, its either sleeve it or leave it!
the target is about 350+-Hp but i saw an aluminum block guard crack to two parts in 250 hp and 1.1 bar of boost.
the thing is that i dont want to sleeve it and dont want to change head gaskets every other month
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 11:53 AM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

I've seen stock sleeves take more than 350 with a good tune
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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tuning is key in longevity.
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:32 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

block post it, endyn has a good writeup
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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link?
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Old Feb 9, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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http://www.theoldone.com/ This is their website I didnt link you directly to the posting tutorial but you can get lost in the wealth of information on their pages.
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Like so?


I don't weld them in though (0.01-0.02mm interference install with heat or liquid nitrogen), if you want the solid file pm me your email address, the water ports are spot on.

I think it's around 14mm thick...
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Old Apr 4, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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^^^^^ That's bad as F***!
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

is that a block guard?
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Originally Posted by miguel329
is that a block guard?
I was thinking the same thing. It looks like a block guard that was installed too high and got resurfaced along with the block to give the appearance/illusion of being a closed deck block - he also said it wasn't welded which furthermore led me to believe it is a block guard.
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Originally Posted by I AM WEASEL
I was thinking the same thing. It looks like a block guard that was installed too high and got resurfaced along with the block to give the appearance/illusion of being a closed deck block - he also said it wasn't welded which furthermore led me to believe it is a block guard.
are you guys blind? the sleeve is clearly not stock.
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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Default Re: making closed deck b16 block?

Right, normally the sleeves are cut so they are flush into one another. I don't know how that's going to work out....
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