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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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is it normal for there to be an ugly gray weld under the surface weld on the inside of the pipe? i've been trying to get a nice surface weld but its unattainable without getting full penetration and getting that ugly weld on the inside..

I was wondering "do all welds that are non-purged look like that on the inside?" and doesnt it take a fraction of an inch on the ID on a full bead around the pipe? its like 1/16" all around on the inside and its ugly caca gray.

i'll get pics later tonight, but is it normal and does that full penetration ugliness affect the integrity of the weld? or is it purely cosmetic? i know its contamination because the inside is not shielded but does it really matter?

sorry if i repeated myself 100x in the post but i cant seem to get my point across.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Stainless or mild steel.

Ideally any pipe weld should be backpurged. Stainless it's needs to be done otherwise you get carbide precipitation on the backside.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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so what color is it on the inside?
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by m R g S r
so what color is it on the inside?
it usually looks like normal stainless. sometimes it has a little color.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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i was kiddin because he said it was ugly gray about 1023 times in the post
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by m R g S r
i was kiddin because he said it was ugly gray about 1023 times in the post
actuallllly.. i said it was caca gray.
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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will this carbide precipitation affect the strength of the weld?
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Old Dec 17, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Yes, it will affect strength, for instance if its on an exhaust manifold,
within a few months it will start cracking, its always best to cap the
ends and purge the inside with argon at about 5 psi, thats what I do,
and usually you will get perfect beads on the inside.
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 10:00 AM
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For a manifold, no.
You should still shield it one way or another.
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sir90hatch
Yes, it will affect strength, for instance if its on an exhaust manifold,
within a few months it will start cracking, its always best to cap the
ends and purge the inside with argon at about 5 psi, thats what I do,
and usually you will get perfect beads on the inside.

i think u mean 5 cfm. also block all your holes and poke a few little holes in each to create even gas flow to the weld.

i use like 20 cfm, u dont wana create pressure in the manifold.
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