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lol what else do you want to find out ? Everyone already told you how there made, I posted a link to show you with pictures.

I don't really think there is anything else to find out .</TD></TR></TABLE>

There's always more to it to me nothing like this is simple.

Thanks people.

 

I tried a while bak to get this info and no one would help me out. It's not even worth trying.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Karterguy13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I tried a while bak to get this info and no one would help me out. It's not even worth trying.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok am I missing something ?

http://www.fab-forum.com/forum...&PN=1

That's the best you are going to do, use your brain and make a jig. I don't understand what so hard to understand about how to make these.

It takes time, money, material, wasted material to get it right, it takes trial an error.

I don't see what else you guys want. There is no big secret, there is no big machine that pumps these out by the dozen.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok am I missing something ?

http://www.fab-forum.com/forum...&PN=1

That's the best you are going to do, use your brain and make a jig. I don't understand what so hard to understand about how to make these.

It takes time, money, material, wasted material to get it right, it takes trial an error.

I don't see what else you guys want. There is no big secret, there is no big machine that pumps these out by the dozen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

All hes saying is that he tried a while back and he had no luck, quit pouncing. No one is this stupid not to know it takes practice. It's a good topic your're killing the nice mood.

 

dont be a jerk the reason people wont hand over the design is because its there liveleyhood and it took them time and energy to figure out and thats why they make money on stuff caus other people cant build it and if they gave out there secrets they would go broke

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by engloid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's the problem with that theory:

We all know that it's just a matter of time till everybody has easy access to this information. Therefore, if this is the "meat and potatoes" of your livlihood, you're hanging on to it by a thread which is not going to hold much longer.

Hopefully, you and others that are keeping this information secret are working on, or have other attributes or products to "hang your hat on." So, WHEN this information all comes out, do you want to be seen as one of the guys that protected something so small and simple, as a means of making money off of them....OR would you rather be the guy that's seen as helpful and was willing to share information to help others?

I'm not trying to bash you or anybody, but there's often times a price you pay for keeping "trade secrets"... We all know this is simple stuff and WILL be common knowledge at some point...

Actually, anybody that frequents a few sites will already know how, as it's already been posted. I have seen pics of this on homemadeturbo.com and on HT forums.</TD></TR></TABLE>


^^ he makes a good point.

 

Anyway heres what I've seen on that forum, practicing cutting PVC with a bandsaw = good practice and cheap. thanks crx guy for giving me that link.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cstay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont be a jerk the reason people wont hand over the design is because its there liveleyhood and it took them time and energy to figure out and thats why they make money on stuff caus other people cant build it and if they gave out there secrets they would go broke</TD></TR></TABLE>

Who was the jerk ? I was not trying to be one.

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All hes saying is that he tried a while back and he had no luck, quit pouncing. No one is this stupid not to know it takes practice. It's a good topic your're killing the nice mood. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm not pouncing, I just don't get it. I mean information was posted in this thread that is good enough to get you started. Sorry if I came across that way.

 

wow....they already explained it and gave you a link. Whats the part left to know? Just like everyone else said, make a jig and cut them on a bandsaw.

Yager-

 

trial and error i guess.

But if someone is willing to show us, it will make things easier for us to begin with. time to try it out I guess, if accomplished, I will tell the WHOLE WORLD!

 

90blackcrx, that link was really fun and really informative, Thank you!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImportHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow....they already explained it and gave you a link. Whats the part left to know? Just like everyone else said, make a jig and cut them on a bandsaw.

Yager-</TD></TR></TABLE>


Why are you repeating what he said? I think he got his point across, your're just asking to start an argument....

 

Now go out and make the jigs, and report back with pictures.

 

The hard part isn't cutting a strait piece of Pipe. It's taking a U bend And getting the angles correct so that the inlet pipes are all parallel and even. It's a trick. I made some great 2-1 collectors about a year ago but my dum *** didn't get the angles steep enough and they are spread to far apart to fit under an oil pan. It would have been easier if i owned a bandsaw but I had to go to a freinds house and do it on his time. I am searching for a bandsaw now and i will try again.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyway heres what I've seen on that forum, practicing cutting PVC with a bandsaw = good practice and cheap. thanks crx guy for giving me that link. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey those are my pvc collectors! hi-jacker

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LamRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey those are my pvc collectors! hi-jacker</TD></TR></TABLE>

didn't think I'd host em eh? At least give some respect for not stealing bandwith

thanks for the pictures

 

fine with me, i was being sarcastic. its not my bandwidth, its fab-forum's.

finally someone is making use of those pvc collector images, woo hoo!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LamRacing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fine with me, i was being sarcastic. its not my bandwidth, its fab-forum's.

finally someone is making use of those pvc collector images, woo hoo! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Na I'm not being defensive @ all.

 

Yeah the PVC trick would work out well.

True enough about the secret parts makes people money

 

copied from a post on hmt

Here is the saw I'll be using.Ryobi 14"chopsaw,but you can use any 14" saw.


Here is the first cut.I use 5 inch length peices of pipe,set the clamp at an angle,clamp the pipe down and cut.


Cut #2,turn the pipe so that cut #1 is facing up(when you cut steel pipe make sure you start off slow or else the blade will want to walk)


There now you only have 3 more peices of pipe to cut.


Tack the 4 peices up and weld away.Here are some pics of the finished product.



There wasn't that easy?Now you are ready to make a N***A PLEASE manifold


Here are some random pics of things I've been working on while I'm at work.Yes I work another job.2 jobs actually

Homemade catchcan


Homemade vaccum manifold


Ball bearing turbo?


D-series top mount manifold(not sure weather I'm going to start selling these or not)Gonna test it out first.








Oh yeah,I just recieved my new tig torch a few days ago.#9 air cooled torch with gas lens and #4 cup.Its pretty small so I can weld in tight places.


Testing out the new torch.







OK THE END.Thanks for looking.

 

i dont understand what all the damn drama is about i cut my first collector with a 4 1/2 in. grinder w/cutoff wheel at a 15 degree angle and some 5th grade math that i used on a tracing of the tubing diameter and it looked just as good as the one in the first picture now those last pictures my hat goes off that collector is purrdy!!

oh and p.s. this thread is OLD

 

The trick isn't really making the jigs. The jigs are easy but for the DIY guy it's difficult to get a high enough quality saw to cut them well. There is a fair amount of wander in the cheaper bandsaws. I've built jigs for the milling machine to cut them but it's not fast enough. I've paid my guy to do them with a 6" grinder and a stainless zip cut wheel and I've done them with bandsaws. A good vertical bandsaw with high quality blade and a good jig is the best in my opinion.

-Michael

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I found this picture on a VW board..
How do you cut and bend tubing like that?

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dang i have nice hands!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hackish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The trick isn't really making the jigs. The jigs are easy but for the DIY guy it's difficult to get a high enough quality saw to cut them well. There is a fair amount of wander in the cheaper bandsaws. I've built jigs for the milling machine to cut them but it's not fast enough. I've paid my guy to do them with a 6" grinder and a stainless zip cut wheel and I've done them with bandsaws. A good vertical bandsaw with high quality blade and a good jig is the best in my opinion.

-Michael</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm going to invest in a GOOD one soon after I drop that money bomb on Motec.

Peep these

http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0561

A rebadge version went cheap on ebay recentley my dumbass missed it
. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...DW:IT

 

I don't mind posting pictures of mine. It's no secret. Anybody with a slight hint of geometry should be able to figure it out. I made it out of 11 gauge aluminum scrap that I had around my work shop. I didn't clean up the aluminum, so it's not the prettiest thing, but it works.