sup, im new to hondas after i purchased my 00'si. i always see posts on here of 5 lug conversions...what is so good about the 5 lug fromt he 4 lug?

Also on my 4 lug stock si rims, one of hte lug nuts is alot bigger on each wheel. its not a lock because i am able to remove it easily, but why is this?

thanks

 

bump

 

more wheel varieties, better brake systems and pure bling factor!

 

Your car may have had locks in the past, and they were removed and replaced with whatever lug nut was easily attainable. Honda lug nuts are not cheap at ~$4 per.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigbeasta4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...what is so good about the 5 lug fromt he 4 lug?

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When you snap off 4 of the studs on each wheel you can still drive the car.

 

why? strength in numbers. look at economy cars and sports cars. one has 4 lug and other has 5 lug. then look at their horsepower rating: one is low and other is alot. basically saying the more torque and horsepower the car has, the more lugs it will need to hold the wheel without snapping the lugs off.

Also look at 18 wheelers, why do they have 12 lugs and not 8 lugs like full size trucks. it's all about torque and the ability to spread it out evenly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why? strength in numbers. look at economy cars and sports cars. one has 4 lug and other has 5 lug. then look at their horsepower rating: one is low and other is alot. basically saying the more torque and horsepower the car has, the more lugs it will need to hold the wheel without snapping the lugs off.

Also look at 18 wheelers, why do they have 12 lugs and not 8 lugs like full size trucks. it's all about torque and the ability to spread it out evenly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Though this statement is true, sadly, our fellow honda-techers do this swap mainly for bandwagon recognition. They use excuses like bigger brakes, better wheel selection, etc.


&lt;-Waiting to be flamed for telling the truth.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why? strength in numbers. look at economy cars and sports cars. one has 4 lug and other has 5 lug. then look at their horsepower rating: one is low and other is alot. basically saying the more torque and horsepower the car has, the more lugs it will need to hold the wheel without snapping the lugs off.

Also look at 18 wheelers, why do they have 12 lugs and not 8 lugs like full size trucks. it's all about torque and the ability to spread it out evenly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why this is a good statement but not entirely true, 5 liter mustangs use a 4 lug wheel and put out more tourqe than we will ever dream of in the honda world and still retain 4 lugs on 750 + hp but they do upgrade to a 5 lug also but your talking big numbers than, one thing to look at is the quality and diameter of the lug itself. just a view from the other side of the fence, not saying you where wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleeperciv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why? strength in numbers. look at economy cars and sports cars. one has 4 lug and other has 5 lug. then look at their horsepower rating: one is low and other is alot. basically saying the more torque and horsepower the car has, the more lugs it will need to hold the wheel without snapping the lugs off.

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Then why does my little Nissan pickup have 6 lug wheels? It's a 4 cylinder barely making 120hp.

 

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Indeed. Almost everyone performing the ITR 5-lug conversion does it for the "bling" factor. The truth is, a superior brake setup could be purchased for less than the cost of the ITR swap, and there are certainly more wheels available in 4x100 than 5x114.3 (though many choose to retain the stock ITR wheels, again for the "bling" recognition). Unless one can somehow find a great (and legitimate/legal) deal on the ITR setup, there really isn't much justification for it.

 

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Then why does my little Nissan pickup have 6 lug wheels? It's a 4 cylinder barely making 120hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>


it's a truck and Nissan probably needed durable from it. like I said strength in numbers. also probably to a certain extent savings in cost. for example, instead of paying alot of money for high quality wheel studs for a 4 lugs, you get the lower and cheaper quality verison. thus you can add an extra lug or 2 to compensate for the lower quality. basically you're even out the load to each wheel lug. I'm not an nissan engineer so that's my guess on why they went with 6 lugs on a 120 hp.

BTW for b18cls1, yeah you're correct that the diameter of the whee lugs play a role in whether it should be 4 or 5 lugs.