Having some really weird tranny issues. When I engage the clutch I`m hearing this high pitch sound almost like a dentist`s drill. This effects the idle and the car wants to stall. Anytime the clutch is engaged, it`s putting load on the motor.
Last weekend we pulled the trans (thanks ryan and ryan) to inspect. The area around the starter looks as if the clutch might have been rubbing against it so we shaved it back a bit more and tried a new clutch (thought we might have had an ls clutch which is a different part number). Bolted everything back up and the sound and problem is still there. This is a new motor, but the trans is a used ITR Unit. I put 500 miles on the new motor before all of this started happening.

I`m beginning to think it could be the trans. Any ideas?

Ryan

 

it could be the MC or the throwout bearing or the slave cylinder.it sound like that the clutch is not disengaged. if you can shift the when it is runing it is not thr MC
it could be the throwout bearing is tounthing the fingers on the clutch.it could be something else but it porably that.

 

Tried the throwout bearing..no luck

 

ttt

 

all integra clutches arethe same dimensionally. the part # differs due to pressure
and contact plate.

so lemme get this straight, you press the clutch in and the engine tries to stall?
which makes noise? the engine or trans?

 

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I'm a little confused about what's happening, too. He says it does that when he engages the clutch. When you press the pedal you are DISengaging it.

He mentioned wear around the starter, but its not clear to me exactly where he means. Inside the bellhousing? Is the wrong pressure plate installed so it rubs? That could explain the noise... and the engine wanting to stall. But the part of the pressure plate that's near the starter doesn't move when you engage/disengage the clutch. The only movement is around the fingers where the T-O bearing sits.

I've heard throw-out bearings that squeal or rattle when they're unloaded. But he already tried that.

 

Thanks, jim/steve. Sorry I wasn`t clear. It`s when the clutch pedal is pressed and the clutch is disengaged.

-pressure plate is correct
-tried to different brand new throw-out bearings

A friend seems to think it could be the pilot bearing.

Thanks for you help, I appreciate it.

 

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Try this...
Idling in neutral, clutch engaged (= not pressing on the pedal). Noise?

Still idling, disengage the clutch (press the pedal). Noise? Pay attention... Does the noise start just as soon as you begin pushing on the pedal, or does it wait till after you've actually disengaged the clutch?

Think about it this way... The throw-out bearing is loaded just as soon as you put any pressure on the pedal. The pilot bearing doesn't begin spinning until the tranny input shaft coasts down.

Sometimes the clutch has enough drag to spin the disk when the tranny is in neutral. In this case, the pilot bearing doesn't spin until you put it in gear, which stops the clutch disk from spinning.

Also - explain the wear around the starter that you mentioned in your first post. I don't get that part...

 

Does the car move smoothly in gear forward and back?

I had a similar situation... then I found that my 5th gear synchro hub was hosed

 

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Try this...
Idling in neutral, clutch engaged (= not pressing on the pedal). Noise? No.

Still idling, disengage the clutch (press the pedal). Noise? Yes. Pay attention... Does the noise start just as soon as you begin pushing on the pedal, or does it wait till after you've actually disengaged the clutch? Noise starts immedietely.

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Sure sounds like a throw-out bearing. What bothers me is you've already done that - twice??

 

Yah, twice.

A few people think that it may be the pilot bearing. Do you think an out of balance flywheel could be the route of all this evil? That`s about the only item on the entire car that I`m in the dark in regards to its past.

 

I'm not a hondatech but I've had my fair share of tranny swaps, clutch installs, and rebuilds.

not to be asking dumb quest.'s but did you use the alignment tool the whole time(installing disk,and pressure plate.
and used cross-pattern when tightning the p.plate?

just trying to help,
by the way I posted a ? on an install today!
I'm getting a higher idle than before on a gsr I installed a clutch on today? help!

 

use grease on the T.O.B.?
hydrolic, right?

 

Ryan, describe the noise a little more and grab a friend to listen and see if you can tell where it's coming from (bell housing or gear box).

OT but you ever fix the idle flunctuation prob?

-brandon

 

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If he put the clutch in mis-aligned, the tranny input shaft wouldn't go into place, right? The first time he disengages it, it would have the opportunity to center itself anyway.

But, yeah - the tightening pattern on the PP bolts??? Good idea.

 

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What's this about? Explain it some more. Maybe it has something to do with your troubles??

 

It was installed correct, both times. We`ve done too may clutches to count.

I`m going to tear it down again this weekend. I`ll be back w/ more info...

Thanks for your help.

Ryan