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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Default Weird *** Problem: H22a into 99 SI.

We put a JDM H22a into an SI with HCP Kit.

90-93 Accord Intermediate Shaft.
90-93 Integra Axles
HCP EK-22 Kit.

The Drivers side axles is vibrating bad (Binding)...when the wheel is straight, when yu turn the wheel 2 turns to each direction...it's fine.

We've had about 5-6 90-93 Teg Axles in the car...I even tried a 89 Teg Axle and it did the same thing. Anyone have any ideas? I need this thing outta here...

I rebuilt the intermediate shaft...took apart the trans, check the wheel bearings...basically everything it could possibly be...I have mad hours into this thing...If anyone can suggest a different drivers side axle combo that will definatley work...im all ears.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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It can't be the axle because you should definitly not have any binding with a 89 teg axle,does the binding get any better with the 89 axle,also I'm not a 100% sure about a 90-93 automatic intermediate shaft but I think it's longer maybe thats what you have.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Hmmmm..wow, never thought about that...Will an Auto IM Shaft bolt up the same?
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Ya the block should be the same were it bolts up.

Was there less binding with the 89 axle?
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Maybe slightly less...the 89 axle didnt look that much shorter to be honest.
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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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i have never seen an auto intermediate shaft form an accord OR prelude. at least not ont eh 2 90-93 auto accords that i own...

how low is the civic? i know for a fact the 86-89 teg axles is shorter than the 90-93 since i have had those side by side, thought eh differnece isnt much it is there.

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Old Dec 17, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Maybe they gave me the wrong axle....

******* drama...ok, so Accord Autos dont have I-Shafts...it must be an axles issue.

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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 04:41 AM
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The 89 axle is a 1/2" shorter you definetly should not have a binding problem with that axle,needless to say the 90-93 axle should work fine with that swap,so it has to be the intermidate shaft or they are giving you the wrong axles but you said you tried severel so that pretty much rules that problem out.

The thing is you said you can turn the wheel 2 turns before it binds if it was the axle or the intermedate shaft it would bind when you first turn the wheel not after 2 rotations then bind.

You can defintly probably rule out the car unless it bin in a serious accident before.

So that leaves you with something with the trans.

Please keep me posted as I'm curious of what the problem is.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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Try this undo the lower ball joint from the lower control arm and turn the wheel then see if you have any binding then if so its the trans.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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The car has been in an accident...

It actually binds when going straight and unbinds when you turn it.
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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Did you try this?


Try this undo the lower ball joint from the lower control arm and turn the wheel then see if you have any binding then if so its the trans.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Alright...so, I popped the ball joint and it still does it.

Only when the wheel is straight though. If I go 2 turns in either direction, it goes away. If it was the trans, I don't think turning would make a difference....

I've already had the trans apart and all the bearings were fine.

I'm pretty ******* stumped right now...I've never seen a problem like this.

I am going to try to get it on an alignment rack to see if the suspension arms are bent or something?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:17 PM
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Did you try taking the outer part of the axle out of the hub and just spinning the axle by hand,To see if it still does it.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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If I pull that axle completely out...the vibration goes away.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Your sure you have the right axle?

It's just has to be something with that axle.

Does the car have traction bars?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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No Traction Bars....Im pulling my hair out on this thing...I need it gone.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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It has to be the axle, usually the lower ball joint is hard to get back in if the axle is to long tho.

Every time i have a binding problem its the axle is to long,but the two rotation thing you got happening just don't make sense to be a axle problem.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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Like I said, the ting binds when the wheel is straight...when i turn the wheel, it stops binding...weird, right?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Default Re: Weird *** Problem: H22a into 99 SI. (Suprdave)

Do you have any old axles? You could take off the inner joint/hub and insert in in the trans on both ends.
Then you can turn it by hand and see whats up...
Too me the 2 turn thing sounds like it may be with the tranny. Something that rotates 2:1 possibly binding? I dont know, Good luck
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Default Re: Weird *** Problem: H22a into 99 SI. (Suprdave)

Dave,

The inner CV joints on aftermarket axles sometimes (lower end auto parts stores) have play or different type of bearings (compared to auto axle bearings). Check the inner CV for play.

Integra CV cups are shallower then accord/prelude axles. If you have a pair of accord axles laying around, swapping the inner CV cup and bearings on the integra axles.
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