whats the diff between ivtec and vtec i find it odd all the hype about the new ivtec and then it hits the market and it sucks IMO

 

and why do you think it sucks?

have you even driven a RSX type S?

i own one and have to say it does not SUCK at all.

i am interested in why you think it sucks though

 

Interesting. Someone who doesn't know the difference but thinks one version sucks?

i-VTEC is best summed up as the standard VTEC + electronically controlled adjustable cam gears. Cam phasing is thus continously adjustable throughout the rev range in addition to the 2 stage cam profiles and, on DOHC, independent control of each intake and exhaust valve. It's just a better overall system that's even more capable of optimizing power throughout the rev range than standard VTEC.

And it doesn't suck. The new K20A is a remarkable motor, both more powerful and dimensionall smaller/lighter than the outgoing B series engines. It's also rumored by Honda to have significantly more potential for NA power output.

 

Good reply Texan.

Are you the Texan from the other forum. I think it was Purehonda or something? You knew everything and everyone was asking you for help.

Anyway, good to see you here on HT if that's you.

 

Yeah, that'd be me. Though I certainly don't know everything, and especially here at HT there is an amazing amount of knowledge on a relatively small board. I find myself reading and learning again for the first time in awhile.


[Modified by texan, 6:37 PM 11/20/2002]

 

ok now that i understand the diff i just thought they suck because the new SI is slow i have race a few diff ones and i have a del sol with a b16a2 and i owned all them some where moded so now i must ask i'm going to do a swap should i go Ivtec or stay with vtec and what are the specs on a stock rsx type s thank


[Modified by autopc8, 2:53 AM 11/21/2002]

 

The new SI is the worst possible example of the K20 engine in full i-VTEC trim. It should have at least 200hp, but that'd cut into RSX sales hence the reduction to 160 with no real RPM potential.

And why in the hell would you swap OUT a B16 for a hybrid 1.8???? If you want power, just turbocharge the B16. It'll own any NA build.

 

i'm haveing trans problems i called a few places and they are saying between
2600-2900 to fix it so i just fig i'd do a swap get a biger moter i was thinking ITR but affter reading what your saying about the ivtec i was going to look into and rsx type S moter but i'm going to say being a new moter there going to cost a lot plus i would like to stay NA


[Modified by autopc8, 3:14 AM 11/21/2002]


[Modified by autopc8, 3:15 AM 11/21/2002]

 

Nice, I thought I recognized the name. Anyway, good to see you on here. I learned a hell of a lot from reading your posts on the other forum. I was also surprised when I stumbled onto HT. Lots of people here know a lot of stuff.

 

You can buy a new B16A for $1200 including the trans, so I'm just a little confused here. Why not just replace the trans for less than $1000?

 

agreed VTEC is more like an on/off switch

 

do you know where as in link or # to a place i can get a trans for 1g or less let me know i miss my sol thanks i hope i get to read more of your posts i'm still new in to imports and i'm trying to learn as much as i can you seem you know your stuff O and thanks for seting me strait on the ivtec

 

I'll try and get you a reputable source and pricing later, but here's at least one place. $525 isn't bad at all IMO.


EDIT: BTW, do you know if your tranny is cable or hydro?


[Modified by texan, 8:26 PM 11/20/2002]

 

You can't judge a motor based on the car its in. The Yamaha SHO motor is a fine example of a great motor in a crappy car. You put a b18c5 into a pickup truck and you're going to have a great motor in a crappy application.

Besides, the new Civic SI has the crappy version of that engine.

 

who cares ivtec or vtec you get the POINT its still VTEC