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Old Sep 24, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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OK, I am in the process of rebuilding a Type R tranny. Now I was told that the 4th gear synchro was in need of replacement and that the tranny has ~40k miles on it and has been to the dragstrip. I figure while I have it apart, I will replace all the synchros, seals and bearings just to be on the safe side. Don't ask, this is how I am.

The gears themselves look OK, as do all the other synchros. I am getting my friend to give me a second opinion.

What is the difference between a synchro ring, and a sleeve set?? Other than a whole lot more parts. Do I really need to get a sleeve set, or just some individual syncro rings?? I notice that some of the grey looking rings in the sleeve have the same teeth that the synchro rings have. They show little to no wear.

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Ken
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 12:13 AM
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bump 4 u
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Bump for me because I really want to learn.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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the sleeve is the entire syncro assembly inside the sleeve that the shift fork goes around. the syncros are just the parts that would go inside the sleeve.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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So when people get "new synchros", do you think that they are getting just the brass synchro rings replaced or new sleeve sets?
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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so u would have to get the sleeve and synchros in a rebuild?
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NXSpoon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So when people get "new synchros", do you think that they are getting just the brass synchro rings replaced or new sleeve sets?</TD></TR></TABLE>
depends on the shop doing the work. since most shops are cheapasses, probably just syncros. sleeves shouldnt be damaged from wear, only the syncros.
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Old Sep 25, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
depends on the shop doing the work. since most shops are cheapasses, probably just syncros. sleeves shouldnt be damaged from wear, only the syncros. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Great, I'll be doing the work and I am not a cheapass. But even I find it wasteful to replace ~$500 worth of sleeve sets if I only need to replace the rings.

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